Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Housing in general  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 29.06.2020, 10:10
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 9,017
Groaned at 308 Times in 251 Posts
Thanked 12,732 Times in 6,656 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Probably helps that we are the top floor and the neighbours below are Brazilian with 5 kids!
Yes, probably.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 29.06.2020, 10:27
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 14,648
Groaned at 462 Times in 368 Posts
Thanked 20,455 Times in 8,481 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Jeez, I wonder if some of you are so wrapped up in yourself that you are unable to show a little consideration for an elderly man who may have lived there much longer than you
Who's that then?

Not me with my elderly neighbours. When we moved kantons, our elderly Swiss neighbours from the old place have come for lunch and we still are in contact with the others.
Another one that died recently said, on the day we left, that we were lovely considerate neighbours.

However, good neighbours is a two way thing and all our elderly neighbours were pleasant too and whenever a problem may have cropped up - we talked about it, in the open, like grown-ups.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
  #63  
Old 29.06.2020, 10:36
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bern
Posts: 503
Groaned at 94 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 720 Times in 288 Posts
Susie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
So, no, those comments didn't put you on my list for good neighbour of the year award
I'm absolutely devastated
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 29.06.2020, 10:39
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 14,648
Groaned at 462 Times in 368 Posts
Thanked 20,455 Times in 8,481 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
We would love to get a smoker, but sadly it isn't allowed as per our lease. .
Don't worry too much - in Switzerland you can be sure that you're never too far from a smoker...
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
  #65  
Old 29.06.2020, 10:52
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 9,017
Groaned at 308 Times in 251 Posts
Thanked 12,732 Times in 6,656 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Wow! May I come over next Christmas? We would love to get a smoker, but sadly it isn't allowed as per our lease. Someday we will get that house in the middle of nowhere...
Imho you'll have to check if you can live in the middle of nowhere before taking any decision...
Might sound more tempting than it really is. If one lives in a good neighbourhood where people are trying their best to be considerate an apartment is not so bad either, especially the new(ish) ones which are larger and have spacious terraces or balconies. Or laundry and hobby rooms.

Some people I know here live in a flat but have a summer cottage or chalet somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post:
  #66  
Old 29.06.2020, 10:58
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bern
Posts: 503
Groaned at 94 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 720 Times in 288 Posts
Susie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Some people I know here live in a flat but have a summer cottage or chalet somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
That is what we are saving for.

Quote:
View Post
Don't worry too much - in Switzerland you can be sure that you're never too far from a smoker...
Ain't that the truth!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Susie-Q for this useful post:
  #67  
Old 29.06.2020, 11:46
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 9,017
Groaned at 308 Times in 251 Posts
Thanked 12,732 Times in 6,656 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Don't worry too much - in Switzerland you can be sure that you're never too far from a smoker...
Tbh it didn't bother me too much years ago but some things have changed in the meantime... I'm still semi-indifferent to the smokers outside which I can (mostly) avoid or talk to them without any fear I might break neighbourly relationships, however, I expect my apartment not to be inundated by smoke, early mornings and late evenings on a daily basis. So if that makes me a bad neighbour, so be it.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank greenmount for this useful post:
  #68  
Old 29.06.2020, 11:59
omtatsat's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,791
Groaned at 2,025 Times in 1,116 Posts
Thanked 5,049 Times in 3,192 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Well, at least you don't wake up passively smoking the (very early) first cigarette of the day. How disgusting food smell can be? I'd rather have that.

What does your wife cook, if I'm to being indiscrete? You raw vegans? She Swiss Swiss Swiss too?
Well maybe I should call it unpleasant smells. When the acrid exhaust fumes get into the nose and burn the back of the throat then very unpleasant. And she cooks for hours! And I wake up passively breathing in her cooking fumes.

And we are vegetarian and proud of it.

People who grill meat on their balconies care nothing about the feelings of the other

Last edited by omtatsat; 29.06.2020 at 12:16.
Reply With Quote
This user groans at omtatsat for this post:
  #69  
Old 29.06.2020, 14:00
Cherub's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Baselstadt
Posts: 493
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 609 Times in 265 Posts
Cherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

"Don't worry too much - in Switzerland you can be sure that you're never too far from a smoker..."


Have to admit, I was totally shocked at the number of people smoking in the street and at outside tables when I first came here, I thought it was worse than in Scotland
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Cherub for this useful post:
  #70  
Old 29.06.2020, 14:05
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 28,446
Groaned at 1,923 Times in 1,458 Posts
Thanked 33,594 Times in 16,028 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Some people I know here live in a flat but have a summer cottage or chalet somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
Us, for example. 4.5 km from home.

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 29.06.2020, 14:25
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bern
Posts: 503
Groaned at 94 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 720 Times in 288 Posts
Susie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
"Don't worry too much - in Switzerland you can be sure that you're never too far from a smoker..."


Have to admit, I was totally shocked at the number of people smoking in the street and at outside tables when I first came here, I thought it was worse than in Scotland
Yea, it's terrible. We looked at our place in late Autumn. The other building down from us has a quiet looking cafe on the ground floor that was closed at the time of our viewing. It seemed virtually harmless. Little did I know, it is the most happening local places in town with tables directly below our windows in Summer. Our house smells like a smokey bar if we open the windows on that side - it is very frustrating, especially since I am asthmatic. I guess we could move, but I don't feel like chunking out a good portion of our savings and going through the massive effort again. What can you do? Live and let live, do your research better next time and keep looking for a weekend hut in the country.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Susie-Q for this useful post:
  #72  
Old 29.06.2020, 15:34
Cherub's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Baselstadt
Posts: 493
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 609 Times in 265 Posts
Cherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Luckily the only time we have problems with smoking is if someone walks past out from windows on the street side which is just above street level, it briefly wafts in.

Unfortunately at the moment the residents on the corner of the building including us have to close the windows at 4pm. We have allotments nearby and someone is lighting a huge firepit type bbq every afternoon, it's burning wood chips so smells a lot, reminds me of people smoking fish in sheds back in Scotland. Apparently we can't complain as it's outdoors, but the affected flats are getting a bit fed up. The girl next door to me has to come in from her balcony and close it up as soon as it gets going and I've taken to burning lavender tea lights every evening. We're the only flat in the building with no balcony because of the building design.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Cherub for this useful post:
  #73  
Old 29.06.2020, 17:29
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 9,017
Groaned at 308 Times in 251 Posts
Thanked 12,732 Times in 6,656 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Our house smells like a smokey bar if we open the windows on that side - it is very frustrating, especially since I am asthmatic. I guess we could move, but I don't feel like chunking out a good portion of our savings and going through the massive effort again. What can you do? Live and let live, do your research better next time and keep looking for a weekend hut in the country.
Exactly, you can't just move unless you're ready to part with a bigger chunk from your budget...fingers crossed for the weekend hut of your dreams, Susie!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post:
  #74  
Old 29.06.2020, 18:39
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,271
Groaned at 121 Times in 79 Posts
Thanked 6,638 Times in 2,321 Posts
Kittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Luckily the only time we have problems with smoking is if someone walks past out from windows on the street side which is just above street level, it briefly wafts in.

Unfortunately at the moment the residents on the corner of the building including us have to close the windows at 4pm. We have allotments nearby and someone is lighting a huge firepit type bbq every afternoon, it's burning wood chips so smells a lot, reminds me of people smoking fish in sheds back in Scotland. Apparently we can't complain as it's outdoors, but the affected flats are getting a bit fed up. The girl next door to me has to come in from her balcony and close it up as soon as it gets going and I've taken to burning lavender tea lights every evening. We're the only flat in the building with no balcony because of the building design.
Actually, you are not allowed to produce excessive smoke and any fire that is still smoking 15 minutes after it has been lit needs to be put out as it is considered a smouldering fire. At least those are the regulations in canton Zurich, it is entirely possible that Basel has a different view.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Kittster for this useful post:
  #75  
Old 29.06.2020, 18:47
Cherub's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Baselstadt
Posts: 493
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 609 Times in 265 Posts
Cherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond reputeCherub has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

As far as we're aware because it's on a small plot of 7 or 8 Freizeitgarten we can't complain about it here. The people who rent them can pretty much do as they like and if there is running water on site they can stay overnight or on weekends.
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 29.06.2020, 19:02
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 28,446
Groaned at 1,923 Times in 1,458 Posts
Thanked 33,594 Times in 16,028 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
Actually, you are not allowed to produce excessive smoke and any fire that is still smoking 15 minutes after it has been lit needs to be put out as it is considered a smouldering fire.
How does that work for wood stoves?

Ours certainly produces smoke the whole time, same with the grill.

Tom
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #77  
Old 29.06.2020, 20:18
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,271
Groaned at 121 Times in 79 Posts
Thanked 6,638 Times in 2,321 Posts
Kittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
How does that work for wood stoves?

Ours certainly produces smoke the whole time, same with the grill.

Tom
This is not about you and your wood stove or your motorbikes or your wife or your way of cooking or really anything related to the incredibly unique human you believe yourself to be but really aren't. It is patently clear that I am talking about the fire described in this particular situation and you have just earned a shared place on my ignore list together with omtatswat or whatever the heck he is called.
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 29.06.2020, 20:43
omtatsat's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,791
Groaned at 2,025 Times in 1,116 Posts
Thanked 5,049 Times in 3,192 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
This is not about you and your wood stove or your motorbikes or your wife or your way of cooking or really anything related to the incredibly unique human you believe yourself to be but really aren't. It is patently clear that I am talking about the fire described in this particular situation and you have just earned a shared place on my ignore list together with omtatswat or whatever the heck he is called.
welcome to the club stgentelman
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 29.06.2020, 22:08
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 7,680
Groaned at 305 Times in 253 Posts
Thanked 9,875 Times in 5,214 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

Quote:
View Post
How does that work for wood stoves?

Ours certainly produces smoke the whole time, same with the grill.

Tom
I would expect a wood stove to have a chimney that ends above the roof, that should leave balconies unaffected.

BBQs have no chimney. Those of fireplaces, if they have one, usually aren't high enough to make a difference to the surroundings.

Yes you need to limit your smoke production, especially on balconies. Lack of smoke is one reason why gas grills are almost exclusively used on balconies, convenience the other. I've started to use a smokeless coal bbq, going back from gas grill, with very satisfying results.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #80  
Old 29.06.2020, 23:03
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bern
Posts: 503
Groaned at 94 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 720 Times in 288 Posts
Susie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond reputeSusie-Q has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Are we being bad neighbors?

We use gas, our lease states we arenít allowed to use charcoal. Fine but me, much easier even though I miss the charcoal taste.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Scratched neighbors car, but... checkov Insurance 4 22.11.2014 08:44
Swiss neighbors Guest Daily life 38 10.10.2013 15:44
Neighbors dog on the loose, should I tell? Nil General off-topic 6 11.07.2013 16:10
Need some advice on new neighbors lmerkel Daily life 14 12.04.2012 01:31
Tips for getting along with your neighbors little_isabella Housing in general 2 21.11.2011 16:13


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 19:24.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0