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Ways to reduce rent?

I am going to rent an apartment without laundry machine. Is it ok to ask for a rent reduction if I add a washing machine to the apartment?

Are there any other way to try to reduce the monthly rent?
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I am going to rent an apartment without laundry machine. Is it ok to ask for a rent reduction if I add a washing machine to the apartment?


No of course not. Why would that be a reason?
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Are there any other way to try to reduce the monthly rent?
I heard from a friend that you can get a rent reduction is you clean the windows twice per week.
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Re: Ways to reduce rent?

Possibly he means there's a communal washing washing which he doesn't want to use and doesn't want to pay a share for.
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Old 28.06.2020, 21:28
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I am going to rent an apartment without laundry machine. Is it ok to ask for a rent reduction if I add a washing machine to the apartment?

Are there any other way to try to reduce the monthly rent?
Nope.
And make sure you get permission to put that washing machine into your flat, it is not allowed everywhere. Sometimes even for good reason (structural engineering calculation).

Actually the past years my rent keeps dropping and dropping and I don't need to lift a finger about it.
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Old 28.06.2020, 21:31
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I heard from a friend that you can get a rent reduction is you clean the windows twice per week.
The landlord's? Hmmm, yeah, possibly.

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I am going to rent an apartment without laundry machine. Is it ok to ask for a rent reduction if I add a washing machine to the apartment?

Are there any other way to try to reduce the monthly rent?
Yes, rent a cheaper apartment.

And as curley said, check with the landlord/agency if it's allowed to have a washing machine in your apartment. Not all places allow it, especially if there's already a communal one for you to use.
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Re: Ways to reduce rent?

Looking at this as a previous tenant, don't forget that if you buy a washing machine it needs to be fitted by a qualified installer. This will involve plumbing and current. Potentially 3-phase wiring.


Looking at this as a landlord, I'm not sure... Water and electricity bill would go up (I'm assuming you have separate power and water meters, so this wont matter much.). Floor's would depend on the property (and older wooden floor may not support the weight/vibrations). If the insulation between floors isn't great, there is potential for nuisance to your neighbors.



Would you leave the washing machine fitted after you leave? If not, then I would expect you to restore the room to it's previous condition (i.e. no extra wiring/plumbing). If yes, I would expect the washing machine to be handed over in "good" condition, and probably add a clause to that effect in the contract.


Still not sure if it's ground for a rent-reduction...
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Kidnap the landlord's dog or favorite child. Write a ransom note with snipplets from newspapers (according to ehmm, a field test conducted by a self-proclaimed expert, 20min works best. Make sure you don't use your subscription to the bi-yearly "Steam Powered Streetcar Aficionado" magazine for obvious reasons ) sign it with your neighbor's name. Thank me later.
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Old 29.06.2020, 08:21
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don't forget that if you buy a washing machine it needs to be fitted by a qualified installer.
Normally, not.

I have fitted several.

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Re: Ways to reduce rent?

You can try to ask to have a rent reduction based on mietezins changes... but this will only work if youve lived in the apartment for some time, not if youre a new renter.
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Normally, not.

I have fitted several.

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https://www.englishforum.ch/housing-...g-machine.html

Also, any landlord in their right mind would demand it gets fitted professionally (with paperwork to boot).
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Also, any landlord in their right mind would demand it gets fitted professionally (with paperwork to boot).
Will OP install an industrial machine and start a laundrette?

Most washing machines in a flat work on 220V - to be plugged into the next socket available. Water can ba taken from the sink and lead back to the sink (a friend of mine still does it that way), I had the siphon replaced with one for connecting the water pipes (in and out), which is definitely the easier as well as safer way.
These machines are very good, the one I have now is 17 years old, looks and works like new. (Wow, I didn't realize that until I wrote it down. LOL).
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I am going to rent an apartment without laundry machine. Is it ok to ask for a rent reduction if I add a washing machine to the apartment?

Are there any other way to try to reduce the monthly rent?
Yes. Don't pay

If you pay for each wash then it would not be on the rent anyhow

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I am going to rent an apartment without laundry machine. Is it ok to ask for a rent reduction if I add a washing machine to the apartment?

Are there any other way to try to reduce the monthly rent?
Why would you rent an appartment if you're apparently not ok with the monthly rent?

Most flats in Switzerland have communal washing (one, or for larger houses several, laundry machine(s) in the basement. They're usually better/more professional than the small one's one does install in their own place)

In the time of "Fridays for Future", an individual laundry machine per flat certainly is a waste of ressources.

If you want to save on rent, choose a cheaper flat. That's the economy. Don't try to bargain with your landlord unless you want to be living somewhere REALLY remote where renters are hard to get. But then you'd be paying some 700-900 CHF/month for a 3-room appartment in the middle of nowhere anyway, and not 2xxx CHF like in ZŁrich
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Old 29.06.2020, 13:49
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Re: Ways to reduce rent?

When apartment buildings are being either newly built or renovated in Baselstadt, I've noticed it's become customary for the property companies to install either a washtower or washer/dryer in the bathroom or a hall cupboard (my apartment is only 2 years old and has a washtower in the hall, plus a large communal drying room in the basement). We have a building on our street where this has happened, also 2 being upgraded in the side turnings are being fitted with laundry equipment. My guess it's because of the number of ex-pats here who find communal laundries a bit of an alien concept - I know I wouldn't like to go back to using one. In the first one we only had a slot once a fortnight, so saving up dirty laundry was dire

Given some of the threads started recently I wonder if the OP is a troll, perhaps even another persona of justintheexpat? Just a hunch about the way things are written and some of the queries being about things you could easily find out even if you've only been here for a couple of days. There seem to have been a number of newbies in the past week or so who don't come across as genuine
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I am going to rent an apartment without laundry machine. Is it ok to ask for a rent reduction if I add a washing machine to the apartment?

Are there any other way to try to reduce the monthly rent?
If a 4.5 room flat is too expensive. Quote a 4 room, if still expensive, downsize to 3.5 room.....repeat until budget is enough.
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Will OP install an industrial machine and start a laundrette?

Most washing machines in a flat work on 220V - to be plugged into the next socket available. Water can ba taken from the sink and lead back to the sink (a friend of mine still does it that way), I had the siphon replaced with one for connecting the water pipes (in and out), which is definitely the easier as well as safer way.
These machines are very good, the one I have now is 17 years old, looks and works like new. (Wow, I didn't realize that until I wrote it down. LOL).
Ours works that way, the feed to ours uses the fitting for the former bidet, and in my wife's daughter's case, the feed to the toilet with a branch, neither of which require a professional installation.

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Old 29.06.2020, 14:27
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Will OP install an industrial machine and start a laundrette?

Most washing machines in a flat work on 220V - to be plugged into the next socket available. Water can ba taken from the sink and lead back to the sink (a friend of mine still does it that way), I had the siphon replaced with one for connecting the water pipes (in and out), which is definitely the easier as well as safer way.
These machines are very good, the one I have now is 17 years old, looks and works like new. (Wow, I didn't realize that until I wrote it down. LOL).
There should not be a "normal" socket in your bathroom or laundry room. The socket should be one designed for humid environments that shuts when not in use. Plugging an appliance permanently to these sockets it not to code.

A washing machine as a permanent appliance should be wired into a box with waterproof grommets on the wire.
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If a 4.5 room flat is too expensive. Quote a 4 room, if still expensive, downsize to 3.5 room.....repeat until budget is enough.
LOL. Too much common sense.

Actually, while down-sizing due to price: Skip the two room apartments, they cost the same as the 3 room most times.
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