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DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

So we had all our walls plastered before we moved in our house 10 years ago. I put wallpaper up in the kids room and removed it this last weekend. It came off rather easily however it is full of knicks and old glue as I just pulled it off without anything. Now I was debating on whether I could fix it.

I looked at some youtube videos and wasnt sure if I could just fix the knicks or do I have to plaster the whole wall again. Is this a job for an expert or can a total beginner do it? I have never done anything like this before but offers for renovero are between 1200-1500 seems high, so I am really tempted to give it a go.

Has anybody out there done this type of work before? Your experience? Any insight is appreciated!
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

Are you renting or owning?

If you own the house the only person which could get mad about a botched DIY job is you and your partner.
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

Photos of wall, nicks and adjacent walls (texture) would be helpful.
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

First, to get the glue off, assuming you can't easily/cleanly remove it with just a scraper, use a soft soap solution, available in DIY shops specific for this purpose. If it's a small area just spraying with water may work well enough, but it's quite tiring and time-consuming for larger walls.

For the plastering, it really depends on what sort of finish you're aiming for, and how bad the damage is. For just a few nicks and scrapes you should be OK with carefully applied filler, but if there's a lot of damage and you want it totally smooth then you're (probably) not going to be able to achieve that yourself in one pass, like a pro plasterer can, so you'll end up needing a decent electric sander to resmooth the whole surface after touching up the nicks and scrapes. Very time-consuming and dusty, so you may prefer to use a plasterer who'll do the whole job in double-quick time.

What I've tended to do, though, is use a crépi (Putz, perhaps Wandputz, in German?) of some description or other, to give a slightly rustic finish, or a very rustic finish where it's deliberately showing trowel marks, which can be very effective, especially if you use two contrasting paints on the surface. But that's more of an interior design choice, and just using a roller-applied crépi isn't too difficult and can give an acceptable finish.
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

I suggest trying it yourself first, because it might be much easier than you think.

Maybe you've already seen this video, but here, a guy uses hot water and a scraper to remove the old glue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ3xyOuLnKk

I think there are also special products out there intended for removing wallpaper glue, such as this:

https://www.amazon.com/WP-Chomp-Worl...4809583&sr=8-2

As for the nicks in the wall, I have repaired damaged walls before using the white paste that is used to fill holes in walls (I think it's called spackling paste in the US). If you 'mold' it the right way, you can usually get it to match the texture of the rest of the wall quite well. It helps if you have a "sandpaper sponge" that isn't very abrasive. (It's sandpaper that looks more like a sponge, sold at DIY stores here -- one side is more abrasive than the other).

Edit: Sorry, I noticed Ace1's post after I submitted mine.
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

If you do choose to do it yourself, don't do what I saw, that my old landlord + wife were doing, when repairing a section of damaged plaster in an apartment we were renting. That is, after the job is finished, rinsing the tools and buckets out in the bathroom. That whole block was plagued, even before that incident, with blocked waste water pipe problems, but probably mainly as a result of their earlier, more extensive, "renovations" which they carried out before we moved in.
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

As others say, the glue should come off with some hot water or steam.

For the knicks you can mix up some filler or skimming plaster and fill the gaps, let it dry and then use some fine sandpaper to rub it down so it is smooth with the wall. Then repaint if necessary.

At the worst it'll cost you CHF 20 to try with some filler and sanding and see if you can manage.
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Are you renting or owning?

If you own the house the only person which could get mad about a botched DIY job is you and your partner.
We own it and my better half has already voiced his opinion on getting it done by an expert. I would be more than happy to show him it can be done without one, but dont want to lose face either.
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Photos of wall, nicks and adjacent walls (texture) would be helpful.
Here are some pictures. I know I have made a mess
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We own it and my better half has already voiced his opinion on getting it done by an expert. I would be more than happy to show him it can be done without one, but dont want to lose face either.
In that case get a subscription of "Selber Machen" or "selbst (ist der mann)".
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

Just repaper and call it a day.

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Here are some pictures. I know I have made a mess
I would remove the wallpaper paste (You did use Tapetenkleister right?), fill the holes with leveling compound and then
either:
put on a "Rollputz" in your favorite color.
or
a white primer and a coat or two of emulsion dispersion paint.
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

Are the last three photos of glue that is stuck to the wall, I assume? It actually doesn't look THAT bad.

Regarding what Tom mentioned above... You could just get some heavy, textured wallpaper that is the kind that is supposed to be painted over. They sell it OBI, etc. That's actually what the leasing company had the walls in our apartment covered with before we moved in (though, admittedly, I wish they weren't). But if you do want to get the walls nice and smooth, to then just be painted normally, it's going to require some time and effort, but I'm quite sure you could do it yourself. One advantage you do have is that it looks like the underlying wall is nice and smooth, so you don't have to worry about matching a specific texture, I guess.
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

in situations like this i ask myself:

1. do i want to pay someone to do it?
2. or do i want to do it myself, pay double and learn something?
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

Hard to tell from the photos but here's my advice which pretty much follows Ace1.

If the rest of the house has a flat smooth texture and you want to replicate that, get a pro in; it's a messy job and difficult to get it done right especially for a first-timer.

Since this is just in a bedroom, and I wanted to do it myself I would go for a non-smooth finish.
1. Don't worry about the glue residue.
2. Put a "Grundierung" on the walls so that the new plaster will bond to the wall.
3. Use Weber IP222 (Weissputz), or similar, to create your texture. There are many different techniques for this. Look at YouTube for ideas. It's going to be messy.
4. Let it dry completely (use a de-humidifier) for a few weeks.
5. Prime and paint.
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in situations like this i ask myself:

1. do i want to pay someone to do it?
2. or do i want to do it myself, pay double and learn something?
Are you sure you'd pay double if you did it yourself?
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Just repaper and call it a day.

Tom
I will first try and get the glue off with water so I can see what I am dealing with. If we decide to wallpaper again, dont I have to smooth out the walls again before using wallpaper? And I havent used the wallpaper removal liquid yet and thought I might try that but didnt want the walls to disintegrate before my eyes.

As you can see I clearly dont know what I am doing but am thankful for all the suggestions and recommendations you all have provided! I will give it a go!!
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Let us know how it turns out. And good luck!
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I will first try and get the glue off with water so I can see what I am dealing with. If we decide to wallpaper again, dont I have to smooth out the walls again before using wallpaper? And I havent used the wallpaper removal liquid yet and thought I might try that but didnt want the walls to disintegrate before my eyes.

As you can see I clearly dont know what I am doing but am thankful for all the suggestions and recommendations you all have provided! I will give it a go!!

Don't worry. Just make sure that you have enough paintings to cover all the ugly spots.
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Re: DYI experts out there- wall repair-Can I do it?

See the steps that will help even a novice in DIY:
1. Spray two times with this solution on intervals of half-hour-https://www.amazon.co.uk/Polycell-Wallpaper-Stripper-500-ml/dp/B000TAY0XY

2. Scraped with this -https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-STA028004-Duty-Handle-Scraper/dp/B0001IW630/ref=sr_1_4?crid=36RY15DP3BM0J&dchild=1&keywords=wa llpaper+scraper&qid=1594842725&s=diy&sprefix=walpa per+%2Cdiy%2C147&sr=1-4

3. Fill holes with this filler -https://www.amazon.co.uk/Polycell-Multi-Purpose-Polyfilla-Ready-Mixed/dp/B000TARAWM/ref=sr_1_3?crid=UQRP320M7Y36&dchild=1&keywords=qui ck+drying+filler&qid=1594842828&s=diy&sprefix=quic k+driying+filler%2Cdiy%2C157&sr=1-3

4. Use this spatula for filling-https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-0-98-519-Flexible-Filling-Knives/dp/B0001IW8MO/ref=sr_1_18?crid=3RUPVHH2YC3OH&dchild=1&keywords=s patula+filler&qid=1594842978&s=diy&sprefix=spatula %2Cdiy%2C163&sr=1-18

5. Sand filler with this sponge or similar sandpaper-https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coral-Tools-74300-Essentials-Abrasive/dp/B01MSLFE5A/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2QNK8ZYFS29UT&dchild=1&keywords=sa nd+sponge&qid=1594843142&s=diy&sprefix=sandspo%2Cd iy%2C150&sr=1-3

6. Before painting you have to apply one coat of primer, otherwise paint will not stick properly to the surface

7. Apply to coats of paint

Success on the job!
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