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i mean what i say and say what i mean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_out
I sit corrected.
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i mean what i say and say what i mean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_out
Or "strip the head" in proper hillbilly English. Never heard the term camming out but I am a hick.

Back to OP, if you are using a standard run of the mill drill for screwing in screws, you might have some hick tendencies also. The torque and speed of these require that they be used with caution.
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Re: screw driver attachment on drilling machine?

So, next day. Thanks for all the answers, ideas - videos, KiwiSteve, some interesting things in those.

I reread my question, I still think it was pretty straight forward: Is it possible to add screwing bits on a drilling machine, as it's not working for me am I missing something.

There were many "hotline first questions" but that's okay. At least nobody asked whether I plugged in the drilling machine.

NotAllThere mentioned <<When I built a stage set, we got through 3 screwdriver bits.>> and I realized that could be it. The bits are old - yet look alright - and while they seemed to grip when just testing by hand, they may not have been good enough when actually used.
So off I went today and got new bits. And surprise, surprise: Yes, you can use screwing bits on drilling machines in general and on mine in particular.
<<Low rpm>> also helped, thanks NotAllThere.

I've not finished the job yet. I did splinter some wood (in spite of predrilling the hole), which I hadn't noticed at first and that has set me back shortly before the famous Swiss 19.00h limit.
I'll have to find a work-around-solution as the thing carries serious weight and I can't trust that splintered bit. Domani, domani - as the Italians say.

Thanks again, I will come back again with such questions should I have any. Unfortunately these modern flats don't leave much room for dys-building which now shows in me losing my touch.
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Old 17.07.2020, 19:29
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Or "strip the head" in proper hillbilly English. Never heard the term camming out but I am a hick.
see my post #38 in this thread.
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Cute. At least the cartoonist seem to acknowledge the category of mechanically declined includes more than just the damsels in distress.
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Cute. At least the cartoonist seem to acknowledge the category of mechanically declined includes more than just the damsels in distress.
Oh there are a lot of people hardly having any clue I know grown adult guys who can't change a bicycle tyre, and let's respect that Curley might not be the most experienced, but at least she takes the tasks.
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Oh there are a lot of people hardly having any clue I know grown adult guys who can't change a bicycle tyre, and let's respect that Curley might not be the most experienced, but at least she takes the tasks.
We used to talk about changing a plug (electric) as the most basic of tasks that surely anyone could perform, although of course there were always those who could not. These days, of course, they're all moulded, so it's not something that most people ever need to do.

As for your bicycle tyre - I fear you're showing your Dutch roots. I'd suspect that it would be quite a small proportion of the general population in most countries who would be able to do it.

What simple task could we use to recognise the inept and incapable these days?
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What simple task could we use to recognise the inept and incapable these days?
Assembling Ikea furniture.

I'm kidding, I wouldn't dish on anyone but was amused by quite a few people.
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We used to talk about changing a plug (electric) as the most basic of tasks that surely anyone could perform, although of course there were always those who could not. These days, of course, they're all moulded, so it's not something that most people ever need to do.

As for your bicycle tyre - I fear you're showing your Dutch roots. I'd suspect that it would be quite a small proportion of the general population in most countries who would be able to do it.

What simple task could we use to recognise the inept and incapable these days?
I know one but it wouldn't come out right, I think..

Anyways, I think - oiling my sewing machines just enough but not too much. It stains if it is overdone. Despite the gorgeous smell..
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We used to talk about changing a plug (electric) as the most basic of tasks that surely anyone could perform, although of course there were always those who could not. These days, of course, they're all moulded, so it's not something that most people ever need to do.

As for your bicycle tyre - I fear you're showing your Dutch roots. I'd suspect that it would be quite a small proportion of the general population in most countries who would be able to do it.

What simple task could we use to recognise the inept and incapable these days?
- Changing showerhead.
- Hanging a plank on the wall.
- Change car battery.

etc.. etc..

All fairly simple tasks that can and will occur in most households, little tools needed and thousands of video's showing instructions.
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Putting in a screw using an electric drill and a bit ?
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Re: screw driver attachment on drilling machine?

Amusing how this thread turned into a pissing-contest for boys. I didn't even know, guys still did that.

It was a tool question and the only one who a) understood the question and b) spotted the problem was NotAllThere. (Thanks again, you saved me hours of doubting myself instead of the tool, the job was done in no time after I got new bits) I'm from a time, when tools were built sturdy, not expecting for metal bits to wear out when not used professionally/daily.

After all the renovating, furniture building, bathroom and kitchen remodelling and stage building I used to do, I'm very happy to read that "today's youth" is able to replace a bicycle tire. I'm sure Greta will be pleased to hear that too.
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Re: screw driver attachment on drilling machine?

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Not so. I was screwing into 26mm solid oak last week with the weedy little cordless electric screwdriver bought from Lidl a few weeks back. I can't see the power rating, but at only 4V it will a lot less than 500W. Absolute no issues with it, even when using the 90deg angle attachment.

The key is to nake sure you have the correct screwdriver head, especially to be certain you're using Pozidriv bits for Pozidriv screws, and of the correct size. Mixing Phillips and Pozidriv is a recipe for knurled screw heads and damaged bits together with unsuccessful screwing.

Edit: For anyone struggling with crosshead screws of either variety, I recommend moving to Torx screws and bits instead. A much more positive interface, also allows you usually to fit the screw onto the bit and place it hands free.

(And I don't know why you mention the hammer function, which would certainly not be relevant).
Ace is about momentum, DC motors have bigger momentum force than AC motors...I have worked with all kind of woodwork tools when it come to screwing, the best tool is a cordless brushless impact driver, nowadays you can find one with 220Nm torque... But still if you screwing in 10-20 year dry acaccia, hard as a stone, no chance to screw in, even you use the most powerfull screwdriver...As a professional wood worker(NVQ Level 3 Joinery), I can tell you never screw without a predrill in any wood, as if soft will crack or if to hard will break the screw, tool...
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Amusing how this thread turned into a pissing-contest for boys. I didn't even know, guys still did that.
It is in our nature, just like that we need to pass the cyclist upfront of us, how walking down the stairs with a friend quickly becomes a race, and when running outside we have 10 seconds to pass the next lightning pole else it will explode.

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