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Kids are entitled to make noise and expect they know the rules better than you since they told you to PO and talk to the landlord.

I’ve always found people from the UK to be very respectful, just saying like
Kids are entitled to make noise within reason. Skateboarding or playing with a ball inside an apartment is not reasonable noise. Neither is jumping from higher surfaces, throwing things on the the floor, slamming doors, or banging against the radiators (depending on how old your place is) because it makes a fun noise.

If they take their shenanigans outside to the playground, there is very little they are not allowed to do in terms of noise. Although we did briefly live in a building which forbade using the playground during lunch but also demanded complete silence inside the apartment. We lived there for about a year before my parents bought a house to do up. I think that place (a cluster of Genossenschaft buildings that was built specifically for families in the the late seventies but the kids of the first batch of renters were all gone with the parents staying put) really pushed them over the edge when it comes to the discomfort of renting as a family with three kids.

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Re: Deal with unrespectful neighbor

OP, sadly on this forum, every word you write will be dissected and you will be easily attacked. It has caused many a good person to leave the site.

Just go to the landlord, everybody has to be respectful. We had a similar situation with our old neighbor. Their son is a bit troubled and they did everything they could to be respectful neighbors despite not being able to control it at all. We of course only spoke with them directly and very kindly. Since they are good considerate humans and tried their best, it made us a lot more patient with the noise. I'm sure your neighbor's inconsiderate behavior only makes it worse.

I wish you all the best of luck.
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Old 13.08.2020, 14:08
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Kids are entitled to make noise and expect they know the rules better than you since they told you to PO and talk to the landlord.

Iíve always found people from the UK to be very respectful, just saying like
Kids also need to learn how to get along within a society and it's the parents job to educate them about it.

Playing ball and skate board through the living room is definitely not acceptable in a block of flats. The landlord won't like it either even if you pay for painting the walls and sanding off the floor when moving out.
If someone wants their children to go nuts 24/7 they should buy/rent a house. If they can't afford that they should learn to live accordingly.

I say if there are six parties in a house, each party has a sixth of the none regulated time to go overboard - and everybody could probably cope with that. Or should at least or they have also been brought up the wrong way.
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Old 13.08.2020, 14:22
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Almost as bad; they're Brits.
Or Septics.

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I do not want to make any assumption here, I truly believe that it is a different problem, they simply don't cope with the fact that the rules attached outside the elevator are there for a reason.
Again, I tried 2 years a very emphatic and polite approach, including baking stuff for them. Trust me we where very polite and gentle but we reached a limit and somehow they did not accept the "formal" request of controlling the noise after 10 p.m.
The only thing I can recommend in case nothing else has worked so far is to talk with your landlord/agency. It's sad some people don't even try to comply with the house rules. At least if they showed some emabarassment or whatever....

Btw, do you have legal insurance? Some friends of mine have had what I would call a minor dispute with their neighbours but they took this matter with the legal consultant provided by their insurance company. The insurance company has sent a letter to the other party (i.e. my friends' neighbours) and things went back to normal again. I can't give too many details, tbh I thought the whole conflict was absurd, but well, they knew something because the nastiness has stopped. Sometimes it's good to show your teeth and flex your muscles a little if playing nice doesn't work.

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Re: Legal Insurance

The best time to get it is before you need it as there is a delay between you getting it and when it becomes active. Also, any previously ongoing stuff would not be covered.
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The only thing I can recommend in case nothing else has worked so far is to talk with your landlord/agency. It's sad some people don't even try to comply with the house rules. At least if they showed some emabarassment or whatever....

Btw, do you have legal insurance? Some friends of mine have had what I would call a minor dispute with their neighbours but they took this matter with the legal consultant provided by their insurance company. The insurance company has sent a letter to the other party (i.e. my friends' neighbours) and things went back to normal again. I can't give too many details, tbh I thought the whole conflict was absurd, but well, they knew something because the nastiness has stopped. Sometimes it's good to show your teeth and flex your muscles a little if playing nice doesn't work.

Just an idea.
I do have one but I would never go down to such an unpleasant path. We have a very strict and regulated building manager. I contact them with the unpolite reply I got and I am sure they will sort the matter out within days.

I really appreciate the effort from all of you so far. I can only suggest from the future readers that first approach is always to be nice, polite and collaborative. Speak frankly and openly. If it does not work, then an escalation to the building owner is the next step and in Switzerland, it should get the job done.

I would never go to the legal way, I'll rather move and let the landlord knows I am moving because of the issue. But hopefully, it is not the case here, I love my apartment, location and neighbors overall
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One note, the non-EU, which also applies to my wife, does not mean rude or non educated.
Well, exactly.

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They told us that, because they pay, the do whatever. In their culture/country, which is EU, it works this way.
Really, what does "EU" or "non-EU" have to do with it?
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Re: Deal with unrespectful neighbor

There are two options as others have described:

Blue Pill: You will take the legal way, informing regie, calling the cops, sending registered letters, send Emails and see where it takes you.

Red Pill: You take matters into your own hands and find clever little ways to terrorize them. Kids are trash and are not a reason to hold back on any shenanigans. You can build vibration tunnels straight to their bedroom floor and use it at nights, blast nordic metal during the day, cook cheap Migros meat for dinner with your windows open, scare them with a loud bang against their door once in every while, send Jehvoas witnesses and other religious nuts to their doorstep and so on.

Up to you to decide on the methods.
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I do have one but I would never go down to such an unpleasant path. We have a very strict and regulated building manager. I contact them with the unpolite reply I got and I am sure they will sort the matter out within days.

I really appreciate the effort from all of you so far. I can only suggest from the future readers that first approach is always to be nice, polite and collaborative. Speak frankly and openly. If it does not work, then an escalation to the building owner is the next step and in Switzerland, it should get the job done.

I would never go to the legal way, I'll rather move and let the landlord knows I am moving because of the issue. But hopefully, it is not the case here, I love my apartment, location and neighbors overall
Why unpleasant? In my friends' case it was far more unpleasant to converse with their neighbours. I think there's nothing wrong to assert your rights even if it might look like an over-reaction. However, it's better if you don't have to. Fingers crossed.
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Umm, I LIKE Nordic Metal.

Just saying.

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Old 13.08.2020, 23:36
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Umm, I LIKE Nordic Metal.

Just saying.

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Should work even better then. You'd go all quiet and shoo your children to do the same, so you can hear it.
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HIM is quite loud, normally.

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Red Pill: You take matters into your own hands and find clever little ways to terrorize them. Kids are trash and are not a reason to hold back on any shenanigans. You can build vibration tunnels straight to their bedroom floor and use it at nights, blast nordic metal during the day, cook cheap Migros meat for dinner with your windows open, scare them with a loud bang against their door once in every while, send Jehvoas witnesses and other religious nuts to their doorstep and so on.

Up to you to decide on the methods.


Atheri, great sense of humour.

Hope things have calmed down for the OP.
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Umm, I LIKE Nordic Metal.

Just saying.

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Do you? Just started to listen to "Heilung" I like it when they start playing the femur.
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Re: Deal with unrespectful neighbor

At our last place we were on the 5th floor, a nice German couple moved out and an E European family moved in. We then started getting things like trolleys from a big branch of Denner in Kleinbasel parked on the landing, the woman was going shopping there and wheeling her stuff back. After a bit she started booking out the laundry room for up to 8 hours at a time and some of us were suspicious she was taking in washing (if you went down there when she had it booked out there was always a lot of dark blue boiler suits and bedlinen piled on the table, plus a hamper of other stuff). She then started leaving discarded empty laundry liquid bottles and soap powder boxes down there so the caretaker put up a notice saying this wasn't on and she wasn't there to deal with other people's rubbish. One of their visitors spat in the lift and the caretaker went spare and stuck a notice in the lift saying their visitor was a Schweinhund

The flat next door to us was sublet to an Indian couple who left when the husband's contract with a pharma co in Basel finished and the E European woman got the fright of her life when the caretaker moved into it. Our caretaker was a very fearsome lady

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Maybe they liked your cookies so much that they keep making noise to ensure you return with another batch.
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They are not EU and they don't believe in house rules, they said that by paying the rent they are entitled to enjoy their space. I am quite upset because I love my apartment and I don't want to leave because of such a non respectful neighbor
I fail to see why EU-ness is relevant? I have in-laws that claim children in apartments are loud and it's a fact of life. They are very Swiss.

I am not from the EU and spent my early childhood in apartments. I knew to ask to go outside if I wanted to run or throw balls around.
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