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Re: The goat shed
Wow! Interesting and thanks for the info. I am going on holiday to the mountains in few weeks time and on the way I will visit the property.

The wooden goat shed is right next to the house and at least 1 story high. He said he will explain when he sees us. I will update you, if and when that happens. I don't think I can live with that goat shed belonging to someone else. I will just walk away if I smell any complications, I am in no rush to buy property.


Given the option I would get rid of the shed or fix it and put nice large glass windows to turn it into a man cave?
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Old 22.09.2020, 14:25
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Building technology has improved but is there much difference between basic concrete from 1950s vs 1990s vs now?
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map.geo.admin.ch

* Zones overview for entire Switzerland
* Information on buildings

* Plot information and boundaries

even the way water is expected to flow in case of strong rains.

Maybe I am not seeing correctly but I don't seem to see any water flow info. Anyone else able to see it?
Is there any info on landslide zones too?
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Old 24.09.2020, 11:28
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Maybe I am not seeing correctly but I don't seem to see any water flow info. Anyone else able to see it?
Is there any info on landslide zones too?
On SwissTopo You can get computer generated maps:
Natural Dangers on SwissTopo
Just unselect, all but one to see it.

On cantons Level GIS and commune level GIS you should get mor information. What is available, and how much the commune and cantone has done so far in actuall assesing the natural risk can be seen on the SwissTopo ShowMe Maps. Once again unselect all but the one you need. But the most interesting here is the landslide on commune levels. As you can see many communes in VS have incomplete maps and date of the landslide risk.

For VS you can find the information here:
https://sitonline.vs.ch/dangers/dangers_geologiques/de/
https://sitonline.vs.ch/dangers/danger_hydrologique/de/
https://sitonline.vs.ch/dangers/danger_avalanches/de

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https://www.vsgis.ch/
Select commune than, "Daten Kanton Wallis" -> "Gefahren"
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Old 24.09.2020, 12:35
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https://www.vsgis.ch/
Select commune than, "Daten Kanton Wallis" -> "Gefahren"

Very kind of you When I click on the various sub categories under Gefahren > the property comes all clear apart from the sub category "Gefahrenweiskarte". There it shows under orange.

If it fully clear of all the other dangers like Lawinen, Hochwasser, Stein, Hangmure, Felssturz, Einsturz, Rutschung then what could the danger be

Info of Gefahrenweiskarte says - "Geographical inventory of the areas that may be exposed to natural geological hazards, according to sub-process (rock fall, rock fall, landslide, slope debris flow, ice fall, collapse, subsidence)."

Sound more like the description of the main category, "Gafahren" in general?


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Old 24.09.2020, 13:14
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Very kind of you When I click on the various sub categories under Gefahren > the property comes all clear apart from the sub category "Gefahrenweiskarte". There it shows under orange.
Click on the orange blob on the map.

PS: And the commune is green or gray on the SwissTopo ShowMe maps? not that there is no information because of lack of risk but because of lack of risk assessment,
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Old 24.09.2020, 13:44
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Click on the orange blob on the map.
I think I searched for the street without the house number hence there was no orange blob. Was going crazy looking for it Once I put the house number, the orange blob appeared. Have too many maps and properties open.


VSGIS-

The "only" danger it shows is "Stein-Blockschlag" but there is a forest between the house and the mountain. Although large rockfall could flatten the forest like in one of the YouTube videos I posted.

Swiss Topo-

The property falls under the following dangers, the ones marked in yellow If I look at places like Zermatt, they fall under many categories too. Seems like gambling to me


* On overland flow map it falls under light purple and not full purple.



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Old 24.09.2020, 15:25
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Maybe I need to rethink my plans. I knew things were getting bad but not this bad.

'Things are getting unstable': global heating and the rise of rockfalls in Swiss Alps

Two-thirds of glacier ice in the Alps 'will melt by 2100'
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Would it be cheeky to ask the agent if he could let me spend a night at the goat hut that I am interested in buying?
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Re: General property buying question(s)

Can't hurt to ask- I would say yes if I was selling.


I do have friends who are 'into' property and Insurance and who would not buy in many parts of the Alps currently- but ...80 years should see you out no?
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Old 25.09.2020, 18:50
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Can't hurt to ask- I would say yes if I was selling.
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I do have friends who are 'into' property and Insurance and who would not buy in many parts of the Alps currently- but ...80 years should see you out no?
You mean because of the Alps crumbling reasons? Yeah, I need it for 40-45 years max (assuming I make it that far), I have been watching a lot of documentaries and reading articles and it seems that a lot of Alpine villages are under extra threat due to the unstable mountains already.
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The crumbling is one part of the problem.
The severe shortage of water is another.

Those glaciers store a lot of water for the Summer...
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Old 26.09.2020, 08:23
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The crumbling is one part of the problem.
The severe shortage of water is another.

Those glaciers store a lot of water for the Summer...

Won't the water shortage problems be greater in the low lands?
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Re: General property buying question(s)

Another absolutey awesome functionality of Swiss federal maps: You can find out how well house roof and it's individual sides are suited for solar panels, depending on the location here.
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Another absolutey awesome functionality of Swiss federal maps: You can find out how well house roof and it's individual sides are suited for solar panels, depending on the location here.
Suitability "high"
Solar electricity worth CHF390
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45% less heating costs

What am I looking at to cover a roof 50m2 in solar panels? 10-15k? Did not know that IKEA sells solar panels now too. Are they any good? Won't thick snow layer in the mountains destroy the solar panels superfast?

Is Wallis vsgis.ch natural danger info more accurate or is the Swiss topo danger info more accurate? Wallis one says, no avalanche risk for one of the properties I am interested in but Swiss topo puts the whole valley for miles and miles under risk zone.
Agent says that property is not under any danger and insurance is not an issue (I guess they all say that anyway?)
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Suitability "high"
Solar electricity worth CHF390
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45% less heating costs

What am I looking at to cover a roof 50m2 in solar panels? 10-15k? Did not know that IKEA sells solar panels now too. Are they any good? Won't thick snow layer in the mountains destroy the solar panels superfast?

Is Wallis vsgis.ch natural danger info more accurate or is the Swiss topo danger info more accurate? Wallis one says, no avalanche risk for one of the properties I am interested in but Swiss topo puts the whole valley for miles and miles under risk zone.
Agent says that property is not under any danger and insurance is not an issue (I guess they all say that anyway?)
Where you finding that info Talk?
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Where you finding that info Talk?

Once you search the address posted by "son of mom", you click on the roof of your property. Then a pop up window will open. In the pop up window will be some info along with the address "Weitere Information sonnendach.ch". You click on the sonnendach.ch link and you see all the info. Some property have detailed info others have just basic info.

My potential property showed the following info-

Suitability "high"
Solar electricity worth CHF390
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Roof area 50m2
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Yeah, I found it thanks.

So solar electricity is what you'd put back into the electricity grid and save on your electricity bill?
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Yeah, I found it thanks.

So solar electricity is what you'd put back into the electricity grid and save on your electricity bill?

It looks like solar panels are not the best option for Switzerland based on my early research. You apparently don't get paid enough for the electricity produced. Maybe it is better for heating water and indirectly saving on heating costs?

Switzerland's needs seem to be well covered by their hydro dams? Maybe someone with better knowledge will enlighten both of us.
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It looks like solar panels are not the best option for Switzerland based on my early research. You apparently don't get paid enough for the electricity produced. Maybe it is better for heating water and indirectly saving on heating costs?

You might get a grant. Info (in German)
https://www.energieheld.ch/heizung/foerderung


Photovoltaics (in English)

https://www.swissolar.ch/en/about-solar/photovoltaics/
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