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Expansion contraction marks/cracks on weight-bearing beams How worried should one be? Can I put some sort of sealant inside it to protect from further damage?

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Dont know about common, but construction is not what it used to be, thats for sure...
The faults were corrected followed by final inspections before accepting. Please note that those were brand new constructions.
I agree on the pricing, its wild. I always joke with OH that in most other countrys we could have bought a smaller castle for the same amount. But now we live here & it was our choice to build so.....
Thanks, I personally noticed that our very first apartment here, built in the '70s had better quality parquet floors and ceramic in the bathroom/guest wc, and the current one which was built in 2010 has an execrable parquet floor which no matter how hard I tried to clean still looks greyish because the top layer of the wood is practically gone, it was gone when we moved here. The edges of the walls and everything seem unfinished or rather, poorly finished. But, it's an apartment meant to be rented, the owners are a company and I don't know who signed the final inspection but they obviously couldn't care less, that's my explanation. However, I thought that all these new houses or apartments for sale have some higher-quality finishes considering people will look if everything has been done as per contract. I didn't expect one has to fight with the constructors in order to have all those things done as they were presented. I have heard a similar story from some friends but thought they had bad luck or smth.
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Old 08.10.2020, 09:20
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Re: General property buying question(s)

Might be helpful for others too-

Buildings Insurance In Switzerland Explained
https://www.moneyland.ch/en/building...ce-switzerland
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Expansion contraction marks/cracks on weight-bearing beams How worried should one be? Can I put some sort of sealant inside it to protect from further damage?

Thats quite normal for old wood beams, you won't find many that are not split in some way.
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I was close to buying a goat shed (small house) but could not visit it due to Corona situation, looks like someone bought it as it has suddenly disappeared from most real estate websites It was online for more than year.

It was in a confirmed rockfall zone so maybe it was for the best! I wonder if the buyer bought it without researching or thought it was worth the risk
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I was close to buying a goat shed (small house) but could not visit it due to Corona situation, looks like someone bought it as it has suddenly disappeared from most real estate websites It was online for more than year.

It was in a confirmed rockfall zone so maybe it was for the best! I wonder if the buyer bought it without researching or thought it was worth the risk
You won’t know if it is sold until you ask. Could be after a year’s advertising they are giving a rest until the spring...
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Called, it has been sold! Was close to 2 years on the market, just when I show serious interest, it gets sold. F*** you Corona!!!!

I will have to go hiking there and roll some stones down so that the buyer gets scared and puts it back on the market

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Question, imagine I buy an attic flat in a multi story house/building. Roof starts leaking water, does the repair cost get divided equally between all owners or do I pay more because I get impacted the most?
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Question, imagine I buy an attic flat in a multi story house/building. Roof starts leaking water, does the repair cost get divided equally between all owners or do I pay more because I get impacted the most?
It should be based on m2, if there is a lift the people on the ground floor pay for that even through they don't use it unless their is an underground garage.
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It should be based on m2, if there is a lift the people on the ground floor pay for that even through they don't use it unless their is an underground garage.
Also it should be in the grundbuch what the share is, so there is no doubt.

There are many many things that could be argued as being different for different flats (north facing pay more for facade painting? stairs upkeep based on floor?), which is why they don't vary it.
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I like clean, smooth white walls. If a property has this kind of pattern, I could easily grind it down with a handheld sander machine, correct?

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I like clean, smooth white walls. If a property has this kind of pattern, I could easily grind it down with a handheld sander machine, correct?

Probably - that pattern is made with wet plaster and a shaping float, or just by lifting a flat float off the wall. But you may still want to get the wall skimmed, you never quite get the same finish otherwise.

However, if you have very rough older walls they can't be sanded, the knobbles are actually proper stone grit Normal approach there is to take the worst off by rubbing something rough over (e.g. the side of a brick) and then replastering or a thick skim if not too bad.
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Sometimes I come across properties that I like and are good value in general but the kitchen and bathroom are old with pink tiles, pink bathtub etc. The kitchen appliances are old too. So ripping everything off and putting new stuff in.

As a rough estimate, how much extra should I budget for if I plan to redo the kitchen and bathroom? Budget option that looks good but not pretentious or expensive

Kitchen-
Fridge
Washing machine (don't use dishwasher)
Sink + Taps
Backsplash tiles
Drawers
Cooking surface/solid wood
New flooring
Electric stove


Bathroom

Remove bathtub and replace with walk in shower cubicle
New sink/taps
New wall tiles
New flooring
Toilet etc
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Sometimes I come across properties that I like and are good value in general but the kitchen and bathroom are old with pink tiles, pink bathtub etc. The kitchen appliances are old too. So ripping everything off and putting new stuff in.

As a rough estimate, how much extra should I budget for if I plan to redo the kitchen and bathroom? Budget option that looks good but not pretentious or expensive

Kitchen-
Fridge
Washing machine (don't use dishwasher)
Sink + Taps
Backsplash tiles
Drawers
Cooking surface/solid wood
New flooring
Electric stove


Bathroom

Remove bathtub and replace with walk in shower cubicle
New sink/taps
New wall tiles
New flooring
Toilet etc
A) 4k DIY, 40K Swiss expert
B) 2K DIY, 20k Swiss expert
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Old 19.11.2020, 09:52
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A) 4k DIY, 40K Swiss expert
B) 2K DIY, 20k Swiss expert
I will try to do most of it DIY but not sure about plumbing part and the Electric Stove installation part. We shall see but your numbers were close to what I was thinking, I had estimated 40k.

DIY + using "Swiss Expert" selectively, maybe I could do it for under 20k
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I will try to do most of it DIY but not sure about plumbing part and the Electric Stove installation part. We shall see but your numbers were close to what I was thinking, I had estimated 40k.

DIY + using "Swiss Expert" selectively, maybe I could do it for under 20k
Plumbing is actually very easy, especially as you will see any leaks or drips within a few seconds
The stove is probably quite easy, but in any case should not cost a fortune.
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Sometimes I come across properties that I like and are good value in general but the kitchen and bathroom are old with pink tiles, pink bathtub etc. The kitchen appliances are old too. So ripping everything off and putting new stuff in.

As a rough estimate, how much extra should I budget for if I plan to redo the kitchen and bathroom? Budget option that looks good but not pretentious or expensive

Kitchen-
Fridge
Washing machine (don't use dishwasher)
Sink + Taps
Backsplash tiles
Drawers
Cooking surface/solid wood
New flooring
Electric stove


Bathroom

Remove bathtub and replace with walk in shower cubicle
New sink/taps
New wall tiles
New flooring
Toilet etc
go to ikea. they can price everything for you and give you a quote on the work too.
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Saw two adverts online for the same flat with two different prices/agents-

Agent No.1. - CHF X

Agent No.2- CHF X + 10,000

Then the advert disappeared online from Agent No.1, I assumed it was sold. I called Agent No.2 just to check, and he says it is still available and only he has the contract with the seller to sell it. He told me to email him so that he could send me the plan etc. I did, but no reply so far

Do sellers go to multiple agents and who ever sells gets the commission?


Edit- Ok Agent No.2 just replied.

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Saw two adverts online for the same flat with two different prices/agents-

Agent No.1. - CHF X

Agent No.2- CHF X + 10,000

Then the advert disappeared online from Agent No.1, I assumed it was sold. I called Agent No.2 just to check, and he says it is still available and only he has the contract with the seller to sell it. He told me to email him so that he could send me the plan etc. I did, but no reply so far

Do sellers go to multiple agents and who ever sells gets the commission?


Edit- Ok Agent No.2 just replied.
Yes multi agent is common, winner takes all
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Sometimes I come across properties that I like and are good value in general but the kitchen and bathroom are old with pink tiles, pink bathtub etc. The kitchen appliances are old too. So ripping everything off and putting new stuff in.

As a rough estimate, how much extra should I budget for if I plan to redo the kitchen and bathroom? Budget option that looks good but not pretentious or expensive

Kitchen-
Fridge
Washing machine (don't use dishwasher)
Sink + Taps
Backsplash tiles
Drawers
Cooking surface/solid wood
New flooring
Electric stove


Bathroom

Remove bathtub and replace with walk in shower cubicle
New sink/taps
New wall tiles
New flooring
Toilet etc

Did we already mention asbestos abatement?


If you rent it out, you can ignore it. But if you live there, it might be worth a thought.


That said, usually, once you start polishing one end, it probably makes you want to rip out the rest, too. Because if you have a new kitchen, looking at the old dining-room may make you a bit sad...
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