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Re: help me understand if water charges is included in this contract. please

Could you post all the terms of the contract? Just picking stuff out w/o greater context is not much of help.

The current Geneva standard rental terms and conditions can be found here:
https://www.ge.ch/legislation/rsg/f/...01_annexe1.pdf

In Art. 24 it specifically mentions that the landlord has to pay the water except if the water is used for business purposes.

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Art. 24 Obligations and expenses borne by the lessor

The Lessor shall be obliged to maintain the rented item in a condition suitable for the purpose for which it was rented, with the exception of minor cleaning or repair work that is necessary for the normal maintenance of the rented item and which is the responsibility of the Lessee.

The lessor shall bear the costs:
(a) the preparation of the lease and its amendments;
(b) repairs and alterations arising out of normal wear and tear of the Building, subject to Sections 28 and 29 below;
(c) the maintenance of the downspout canal and the removal of household waste deposited in the common receptacles provided for that purpose;
(d) the maintenance and motive power of the elevator;
(e) lighting of stairwells, common areas and approaches to the building;
(f) janitorial services, where such services are provided in the building;
(g) water used by tenants (other than water used for business purposes) and sewage treatment plant operating contributions;
(h) repairs and alterations due to normal wear and tear of the apartment. If after 10 years, respectively 15 years, the wallpaper and varnishes are worn out, their replacement or repair is the responsibility of the landlord.

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Re: help me understand if water charges is included in this contract. please

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Could you post all the terms of the contract? Just picking stuff out w/o greater context is not much of help.

The current Geneva standard rental terms and conditions can be found here:
https://www.ge.ch/legislation/rsg/f/...01_annexe1.pdf

In Art. 24 it specifically mentions that the landlord has to pay the water except if the water is used for business purposes.
thanks for pointing this out. I guess the standard contracts have changed since then. as I mentioned this contract is old, from the 90s.

here is the translated full terms of Art 19.

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B. Obligations of the tenant Maintenance of the rented premises Art. 19

- Once in possession of the thing, the tenant is required to use it with care and keep it clean and in good condition. The minor maintenance, cleaning and repair work required by the normal enjoyment of the rented property, as well as its main obligations, which are incumbent upon it in accordance with the law, are in particular the following:

a) replace broken or damaged windows;
b) maintain woodwork and floors (mechanical sanding of the latter is prohibited without the written authorization of the lessor); damage caused by stilettos, burns, scratches and heavy stains is not considered normal wear and tear;
c) replace worn gaskets on faucets, spray screens, hoses, worn switches, outlets and fuses, fluorescent bulbs and tubes;
d) change the worn ropes and straps on roller shutters and blinds, even if they were worn when you took possession of the apartment;
e) fold down the shutters in bad weather;
f) lubricate the locks, hinges, door plugs, windows, shutters, tent frames, etc ...;
g) ensure the routine maintenance of sanitary installations, stoves, stoves, refrigerated cabinets, washing machines, electrical outlets, plugs and cords, etc., owned by the lessor;
h) maintain cleanliness and remove snow or ice from balconies, awnings, verandas and sidewalks belonging to the rented premises;
i) notify the lessor of the appearance of parasites or rodents such as bedbugs, cockroaches, ants, mice, rats. The lessor makes all arrangements for their extermination, at the expense of the lessee at fault if applicable; the tenant cannot oppose the disinfection of the thing;
j) have the living room chimneys and smoke ducts swept regularly, in accordance with legal requirements;
k) keep the paints clean; wash and clean the kitchens, toilets and bathrooms regularly;
I) have the central heating installations checked, maintained and lubricated at their own expense, as well as the periodic descaling of water heaters:
m) regularly clean the tanks, bags and pits and bear the costs of unblocking interior and exterior pipes obstructed by its fact;
n) take all necessary precautions against the risk of fire, water damage and frost;
o) do not store on the property any explosive or flammable material in excess of the household needs of the inhabitants of the house;
p) proceed, at its own expense, to disinfect the contaminated premises in the event that one of the inhabitants of the house has been infected with a contagious disease;
q) bear the consequences of damage occurring in the rented property when it does not come from the lessor or from a construction defect and results from acts of third parties, fortuitous events or cases of force majeure, for as long as the tenant has not taken all the measures required by the circumstances;
r) report to the lessor, as soon as he becomes aware of it, and then to confirm it in writing, any damage or threat of damage to the property, such as gas leaks, faulty insulation of electrical pipes, suspicious odor coming from the stoves , refrigerators, heating and pipes, falling trees, collapsing walls, etc. ;
s) respect at all times the rights of neighbors and observe official and private regulations and easements relating to property;
t) formulate in writing, except in an emergency, all requests or complaints;
u) bear, where these services exist, the costs resulting from its consumption of water, gas, electricity, as well as the subscription and telephone, radio and television taxes and pay all the related slips of the services concerned which will be presented to it, including the contractual minimums.
would the terms be automatically updated to the new standard?
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Re: help me understand if water charges is included in this contract. please

Point P gave me a good laugh

You definatley need to get those updated...
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