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st2lemans 14.09.2020 16:30

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3217071)
That house looks overpriced to me. Interior looks nice but too many houses near you. I have seen better for CHF250,000 with green space all around and much better views ;)

Edit- Ok it is the whole building so maybe not overpriced but location I don't like. The building looks solid though.


Edit-2
Lot cheaper-

https://en.comparis.ch/immobilien/ma.../show/23910302

5 1/2 rooms in 66m2? :eek:

We have 2 rooms in 40m2! (rustico), 4 1/4 in 100m2 (apartment)

Tom

HickvonFrick 14.09.2020 16:33

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3217159)
Priced to sell though with no parking but you can rent a place down the road - two minutes walk (half an hour in a blizzard when you've done your two weekly shop before you get snowed in!)

5.5 rooms at 66 metres squared????

My 3.5 is over 100...

Talk to you later 14.09.2020 16:50

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3217166)
5 1/2 rooms in 66m2? :eek:

We have 2 rooms in 40m2! (rustico), 4 1/4 in 100m2 (apartment)

Tom


Well I am not buying it, that was just an example. I am not the one who has reserved that house :D My current 3.5 room flat is 65m2.
Maybe the person buying it will open it up a bit?

Edit-


Better photos-
https://www.immobilienboerse-ag.ch/d...e-lage/2677325

HickvonFrick 14.09.2020 16:58

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3217173)
Well I am not buying it, that was just an example. I am not the one who has reserved that house :D My current 3.5 room flat is 65m2.
Maybe the person buying it will open it up a bit?

Edit-


Better photos-
https://www.immobilienboerse-ag.ch/d...e-lage/2677325

If I was free and single, I'd be up for the crazy scheme you have in mind. Why not? As long as you survive the winter...

Talk to you later 14.09.2020 17:23

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by HickvonFrick (Post 3217177)
As long as you survive the winter...

:o
I have been following this guy for some general tips-
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIM...XXCeq2UJePJEog

st2lemans 14.09.2020 17:24

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3217173)
Well I am not buying it, that was just an example. I am not the one who has reserved that house :D My current 3.5 room flat is 65m2.
Maybe the person buying it will open it up a bit?

Edit-


Better photos-
https://www.immobilienboerse-ag.ch/d...e-lage/2677325

2 Zimmer 7.85 m2, 6.6 m2

:eek:

Tom

Talk to you later 14.09.2020 17:28

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3217186)
2 Zimmer 7.85 m2, 6.6 m2

:eek:

Tom


Must be the ones up in the attic? For 1 or 2 people the house is plenty. You disagree?
I might need to get a dog though.

st2lemans 14.09.2020 17:46

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3217188)
Must be the ones up in the attic? For 1 or 2 people the house is plenty. You disagree?
I might need to get a dog though.

66m2 is fine for 1-2 people.

Get a dog who lives outside.

And some goats or sheep to trim the lawn.

Careful with the dimensions, ours is 55m2 outside, 40m2 inside (walls are 50cm), so 5x11 outside, 4x10 inside.

Tom

Talk to you later 14.09.2020 18:41

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3217195)
66m2 is fine for 1-2 people.

Get a dog who lives outside.

Tom

That would be cruel, dog would freeze to death?
Quote:

And some goats or sheep to trim the lawn.
Bloody hell you want me to turn into a farmer. Next you will tell me to marry a sheep, wouldn't a cow be better? :D

NotSwissEnough 14.09.2020 19:01

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by HickvonFrick (Post 3217168)
5.5 rooms at 66 metres squared????

My 3.5 is over 100...

Sometimes there's rooms that don't count because the ceiling is too low or the heating doesn't work on the top floor (would need a space heater, etc...)

I want a summer home now. I don't really care all that much about the house, it's the garden I want.

st2lemans 14.09.2020 19:32

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
House sizes, at least for insurance, are based on m3 and not m2.

Which is why our insured value is about 2x purchase price.

Just saying.

Tom

Talk to you later 05.10.2020 18:24

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
A property I searched on one of the hazard map appears under orange colour = "Gefahrenhinweiskarte Blockschag" (Hazard warning card block impact).

The same property shows as white under "Blockschlaggefahr" (Block impact risk) :confused:

What is the difference between "Gefahrenhinweiskarte Blockschlag" vs "Blockschlaggefahr" :confused:

https://i.ibb.co/x6KmR3b/block.png

bowlie 05.10.2020 18:49

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3223592)
A property I searched on one of the hazard map appears under orange colour = "Gefahrenhinweiskarte Blockschag" (Hazard warning card block impact).

The same property shows as white under "Blockschlaggefahr" (Block impact risk) :confused:

What is the difference between "Gefahrenhinweiskarte Blockschlag" vs "Blockschlaggefahr" :confused:

https://i.ibb.co/x6KmR3b/block.png

Just ein bitzli.

Sigh 05.10.2020 18:55

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3217173)
Well I am not buying it, that was just an example. I am not the one who has reserved that house :D My current 3.5 room flat is 65m2.
Maybe the person buying it will open it up a bit?

Edit-


Better photos-
https://www.immobilienboerse-ag.ch/d...e-lage/2677325

Any construction is going to be difficult, there is no permanent direct access to the chalet.


"Es besteht keine direkte Zufahrt zum Chalet. Für grössere Materialtransporte, wie zum Beispiel für das Zügeln, kann aber eine provisorische und einmalige Zufahrt bis zum Chalet ermöglicht werden."

Ace1 05.10.2020 19:08

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
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Originally Posted by NotSwissEnough (Post 3217228)
Sometimes there's rooms that don't count because the ceiling is too low or the heating doesn't work on the top floor (would need a space heater, etc...)

I don't think heating has any part to play in calculating dimensions. Ceiling height, certainly, with, IIRC, anything lower than 1.5m being excluded from the calculated surface area.

And windows too, I believe, so an attic room with only a small Velux window, for example, may 'lose' even more of its floor area, based on a specified minimum window size per countable square metre of floor space in any given room.

BasP72 05.10.2020 22:31

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3223592)
A property I searched on one of the hazard map appears under orange colour = "Gefahrenhinweiskarte Blockschag" (Hazard warning card block impact).

The same property shows as white under "Blockschlaggefahr" (Block impact risk) :confused:

What is the difference between "Gefahrenhinweiskarte Blockschlag" vs "Blockschlaggefahr" :confused:

https://i.ibb.co/x6KmR3b/block.png

Maybe its the same as felsschlag :

https://www.20min.ch/story/autofahre...n-208727501987

Basically theres danger of the mountain falling down on the place... at least thats my interpretation

Talk to you later 06.10.2020 09:24

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BasP72 (Post 3223654)
Maybe its the same as felsschlag :

https://www.20min.ch/story/autofahre...n-208727501987

Basically theres danger of the mountain falling down on the place... at least thats my interpretation

Yes stones and blocks of rock/mountain breaking off. My question was different, how can a property be in the white zone "not dangerous" for Blockschlag and still be under orange for Gefahrenhinweiskarte Blockschlag.

It does not matter any more as I have worked out through more research that the property is in a semi-risky area. It would be hard to sell it in the future if I ever changed my mind. With climate change accelerating crumbling of the Alps, it would be wise to stay away from risky areas. Cuts down my options unfortunately.

Talk to you later 06.10.2020 09:34

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
Btw some documentaries if the subject interests you-






Talk to you later 12.10.2020 10:55

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
This mountain goat hut search is proving to be very challenging! Every decent place falls under one or other hazard zone! For example a popular town is fully covered by the following hazard warning-

Gefahrenhinweiskarte spontane rutschung (Hazard warning card for spontaneous landslides)

Thousands of people live there, do people just ignore the dangers and buy anyway and hope for the best :confused:

rainer_d 12.10.2020 11:16

Re: Maintaining small house & living in the lower mountains questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3225660)
This mountain goat hut search is proving to be very challenging! Every decent place falls under one or other hazard zone! For example a popular town is fully covered by the following hazard warning-

Gefahrenhinweiskarte spontane rutschung (Hazard warning card for spontaneous landslides)

Thousands of people live there, do people just ignore the dangers and buy anyway and hope for the best :confused:


Yep.


Same as driving a car or living in the Bay Area or around the Cascadia Fault Line.


Though, with Yellowstone, basically the whole US is a danger zone.


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