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Not quite sure how you renovate a kitchen without replacing it...
You could just replace the doors but leave the carcass of the units and change the work tops.
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Re: New Kitchen

Search for "komplettkuchen" on Ricardo, and be amazed at what you can get for next to nothing....
Our 2nd hand Kitchen, including a full complement of expensive V-ZUG equipment, came in at 1800 CHF. For a complete kitchen in very good condition.....
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You could just replace the doors but leave the carcass of the units and change the work tops.
In the UK yes, but here- far too expensive (unless someone knows better ... please) - there are now paints which are suitable for painting kitchen units- any advice? Probably will buy from France, or UK when we go.

We have 2 huge sinks, so one will go and be a large working surface, and all appliances are 40 - 50 years old, lol, Still got a solid plate hob, lol.

We also have (why oh why?) a washing machine on a concrete base in the kitchen- which will move next door (why not at the time- a mistery) to the utility- to hide the concrete base, I shall get our local carpenter to make it into a wine rack and butcher's wood block. Not sure whether to keep the old flag floor.
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Search for "komplettkuchen" on Ricardo, and be amazed at what you can get for next to nothing....
Our 2nd hand Kitchen, including a full complement of expensive V-ZUG equipment, came in at 1800 CHF. For a complete kitchen in very good condition.....
If you're fitting into a standard Swiss sized kitchen space then yes, there are quite a lot of nearly-new kitchens for sale. Seems quite common here for new tenants to rip out the existing kitchen whether it really needs it or not.

I'd be cautious about the new complete kitchens you can get for that sort of money, though. We looked at some, as low as chf1500 fully-equipped, but veered away, on the basis that we'd likely live to regret such a "bargain".

Sadly for us the standard sizes wouldn't/won't work in any of our kitchens, so we went for IKEA instead (for the two I've done so far) which is surprisingly excellent quality and very reasonable, barring the fact that you can get better/cheaper appliances, sinks, taps etc. elsewhere, as we did in the most part.

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You could just replace the doors but leave the carcass of the units and change the work tops.
In the UK yes, but here- far too expensive (unless someone knows better ... please) -
No reason in principle that Ikea door fronts couldn't be used to revitalise an old kitchen, although there may need to be some extra drilling to make the hinges fit properly. They start from around 30 francs for a 60*80 door, although the fancier ones are more than double that. Still, you could potentially replace all the doors in a smallish kitchen for two or three hundred, which isn't what I call expensive.
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Re: New Kitchen

Thanks, interesting- we really must go to IKEA soon and have a good look.

This is a very large farm kitchen- but in fact only two walls have units. Might take out those above the second double sink which we will remove to make large work area and put in utility- and put racks instead to give more light to that area.

It might never happen either - lol.
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Re: New Kitchen

I know a company who did a quality kitchen for us and it was less than 30,000.

Also avoid IKEA. Quality is not good. May look nice but not long lasting

If you want to know the name of the company you can back channel me
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Re: New Kitchen

We recently purchased the kitchen
In general they make money on appliances and tops, i think.
But the appliances are what really they count on

Oven? 10k in the offer, vs 2k on some famous website

So in the end we agreed to have a really nice top but to provide the appliances by ourselves
Saved a lot of money

Of course not all the brands are OK with that and we were invited to get a job, but i simply cannot pay 2x-5x for the same item
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I know a company who did a quality kitchen for us and it was less than 30,000.

Also avoid IKEA. Quality is not good. May look nice but not long lasting

If you want to know the name of the company you can back channel me
Ikea has a 25 year guarantee on their kitchens, I have a 21 year old one in my Ski Apartment, still in great condition. I would probably replace the worktop if I had not accepted an offer for the flat last week.
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In the UK yes, but here- far too expensive (unless someone knows better ... please) - there are now paints which are suitable for painting kitchen units- any advice? Probably will buy from France, or UK when we go.

We have 2 huge sinks, so one will go and be a large working surface, and all appliances are 40 - 50 years old, lol, Still got a solid plate hob, lol.

We also have (why oh why?) a washing machine on a concrete base in the kitchen- which will move next door (why not at the time- a mistery) to the utility- to hide the concrete base, I shall get our local carpenter to make it into a wine rack and butcher's wood block. Not sure whether to keep the old flag floor.
Friends got a new kitchen from France - not far from you, it looks really nice and if you like I can ask them who they used - it wasn't too exorbitant in price either. They were quite happy to come over the border to fit it
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I know a company who did a quality kitchen for us and it was less than 30,000.

Also avoid IKEA. Quality is not good. May look nice but not long lasting

If you want to know the name of the company you can back channel me
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Ikea has a 25 year guarantee on their kitchens, I have a 21 year old one in my Ski Apartment, still in great condition. I would probably replace the worktop if I had not accepted an offer for the flat last week.
Agree with fmf's post, Ikea kitchens are good quality and I get very annoyed with people who keep insisting they're rubbish.... mainly it seems because if a kitchen don't cost shed-loads of money it must be shoddy.

My own Ikea kitchen is now ~35 years old and has survived being moved twice from it's original setting; I'm trying to persuade OH to let me take (at the very least) the doors when we eventually move again.
The butcher-block worktops are still looking good, they might need a bit of extra care (oiling once a year or so) but they're wonderful and way better than hideously expensive granite or marble.
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Old 11.03.2021, 19:58
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I know a company who did a quality kitchen for us and it was less than 30,000.

Also avoid IKEA. Quality is not good. May look nice but not long lasting

If you want to know the name of the company you can back channel me
So you can slag off Ikea kitchens online (have you actually had one?) but you can't name a company that you would recommend?

Can you try and be a bit more weird?
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So you can slag off Ikea kitchens online (have you actually had one?) but you can't name a company that you would recommend?

Can you try and be a bit more weird?
Can not name a company as it would be advertising

Also IKEA uses cheap press board.
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Okay will give it a shot. Swiss Carpenter
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Can not name a company as it would be advertising

Also IKEA uses cheap press board.
Haha,
However so cheap they have a 25 year guarantee for the cheapest kitchen the sell!
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