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Old 18.09.2020, 11:09
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how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

When I moved in the apartment, eveything was marked in the handoff as used but not damaged.

After a month, the bathroom faucet started leaking, and overnight it would create a puddle.

Notifying the agency and landlord, this was thankfully sorted by replacing the faucet with a new one but of lower quality and smaller size than what was previously used, this new one started leaking much much worse after a week of normal use.

After notifying again, that too was replaced with a new one of the same type.

Now I'm thinking it could be two outcomes, either I was unlucky to have received the first replacement with a manufacturing defect, or maybe the newly installed faucet being of lower grade/quality/size will also start leaking after a week or two.

In this situation, if the second one starts leaking, can I buy my own faucet, something more expensive, and agree to deduct it from the rent? How is this normally done?
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Old 18.09.2020, 11:21
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

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How is this normally done?
When you leave, you put the original back and take the one you bought with you.

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Old 18.09.2020, 11:30
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

I just replace stuff like that myself..

Our regie is useless and it's a long story with the owner. But I just do this sort of thing myself.. I've kept the original taps in case there's an outside chance anybody cares when we leave.
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

But what if the tenant is not a plumping expert and needs to get someone to replace something broken.... can they after sending several chaser to agency/ landlord get someone to fix it and bill it to the landlord....wait for it .. wait for it.... I am expecting the answer to be 'No the landlord is not obliged to fix anything or pay for fixes, they may charge you fees for fixing it yourself'

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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

When choosing a new apartment, I was very impressed by the big fancy 'rain style' shower head.
When it came to actually using it, it wouldn't work due to insufficient water pressure. (lesson learned, try out the appliances before signing the lease).
When we asked the landlord, they replaced it with a cheap generic low-flow shower head from Jumbo down the street (which still barely works) - and charged us 200.-

Again, lesson learned
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

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When I moved in the apartment, eveything was marked in the handoff as used but not damaged.

After a month, the bathroom faucet started leaking, and overnight it would create a puddle.

Notifying the agency and landlord, this was thankfully sorted by replacing the faucet with a new one but of lower quality and smaller size than what was previously used, this new one started leaking much much worse after a week of normal use.

After notifying again, that too was replaced with a new one of the same type.

Now I'm thinking it could be two outcomes, either I was unlucky to have received the first replacement with a manufacturing defect, or maybe the newly installed faucet being of lower grade/quality/size will also start leaking after a week or two.

In this situation, if the second one starts leaking, can I buy my own faucet, something more expensive, and agree to deduct it from the rent? How is this normally done?

It would seem that the current remedies haven't/might not be successful and you would have been without a satisfactory tap since you moved in. In this case it would seem reasonable to have something of better quality fitted. If necessary talk to your landlord about it. They might agree to pay a bit more. This is potentially a different case to if you simply don't like the something.
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Old 18.09.2020, 16:55
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But what if the tenant is not a plumping expert and needs to get someone to replace something broken.... can they after sending several chaser to agency/ landlord get someone to fix it and bill it to the landlord....wait for it .. wait for it.... I am expecting the answer to be 'No
The answer is Yes. But you have to follow the established process.
Here in German:
https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/miet...-schaeden.html

Use deepl.com for translation (In many cases better results than Google Translate) and maybe think about getting German lessons. Can be useful in the future.
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

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The answer is Yes. But you have to follow the established process.
Here in German:
https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/miet...-schaeden.html

Use deepl.com for translation (In many cases better results than Google Translate) and maybe think about getting German lessons. Can be useful in the future.
Thanks, am actually getting German lessons, reached A2... but for legal processes etc, I would think I definitely translate even if my level is higher
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Old 18.09.2020, 18:12
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

In the last rented apartment, I replaced/upgraded stuff. Technically, I should have replaced the originals on leaving, but the landlord didn't notice.
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

If you want the LL to pay, then discuss with him. He might agree to pay only the value as a standard replacement and you pay the excess.
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

We've had a few similar replacements over the years, and we have a great landlord.

Most of the replacements he sent out his own plumber, who replaced/repaired the tap with a similar model (which then began to leak within a couple of years).

The last time, we asked the landlord in advance if we could buy the taps and have his plumber install them. After some discussion back and forth, we bought the taps, his plumber installed them, and they've been working great ever since. He paid for the plumber's time, we paid for the taps. They're an upgrade, as well - higher and longer in the bathroom (so more space beneath to actually wash your hands) and with an extendable hose and 'needle' spray selection in the kitchen sink (so you can rinse things better before washing up).

Basically, if you think something could be done better, ask your landlord. If they're reasonable people, you'll work out a deal with which you're both happy.
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

What about installing glass wall as wind protection on balcony. Is this type of the "update" work possible in rented apartments? I don't have a problem paying for it, if I decide that I will stay here where I am in a really long time and wind protection will improve my life style in the apartment.
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Old 20.09.2020, 11:45
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Re: how can you ask for an "upgrade" to the apartment?

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What about installing glass wall as wind protection on balcony. Is this type of the "update" work possible in rented apartments? I don't have a problem paying for it, if I decide that I will stay here where I am in a really long time and wind protection will improve my life style in the apartment.
You can basically do anything as long as it is reversible - except removing walls. Often the next tenant is happy to have things left as you made them but do not expect them to pay for it = write it off when you get it done.

Something like your glass wind protection I would do the research, get the price info, then approach the landlord with it. They might even be willing to pay for it, specially as you've done all the work for them in advance.
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