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Re: Buying a property in Bellevue GE, airplane noise?

You could start a new hobby... plane spotting Then you’d enjoy the noise!
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You could start a new hobby... plane spotting Then you’d enjoy the noise!
I did exactly that for one hour in Versoix one month ago. I sat on a bench right by College du Léman, which is a very fancy private school. Craning my neck, filming planes whenever they came. I was doing field research for our future flat. I seemed to alarm a lot of parents who came to pick up their kids..
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The major flight path and noise is about a block up the street at the level of the country club and US marine house (above Richemont) . The planes get very scarily low at that point when the approach for landing. I have to cover ears and often duck for cover depending on plane size. Personally I couldn't live there, but the location you mention is slightly down from the apex.
You were right. I searched several routes on flightradar24. All of them were not above this development. Encouraging! I think I will grab a coffee at Webster university and read a book there for 2 hours to get a rough idea.

Thank you all guys!!! You are all so wonderful!
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Re: Buying a property in Bellevue GE, airplane noise?

I found the worst thing about living near the flight path was summer weekends.
Usually there is a volley of 20 or 30 charters taking off between 6am and 7am on a Saturday and Sunday morning. Not nice if you live on a near silent development and want to sleep with the windows open.
After that, sitting on the balcony with them taking off.
After that, despite the quite benign wind in CH, if you're down wind of the airport then you can hear them starting the engines from 5am onwards.
With Genf I'd expect plenty of weekend traffic with the winter skiing as well.
All that said, I'm a very, very light sleeper.

It's good you are doing your research.
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Old 06.10.2020, 09:18
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Re: Buying a property in Bellevue GE, airplane noise?

I went to the Bellevue zoo a month ago with my son and I thought "poor animals" as the sound was atrocious and the planes quite low. As many have said, now the airline traffic is quite low compared to the peaks pre-Covid.

Personally I decided to live only on the rive gauche of the canton to avoid any issue with airplanes. As many houses in GE don't have air conditioning and summers are getting hotter, if you have to sleep with the windows open it's not great to have a plane every three minutes going 6am - 11pm.

FWIW I don't think it's random that houses/apartment in Meyrin, Vernier, Petit and Grand Sacconex and Versoix went to the market (rent) in big numbers during the peak COVID-airport closure period and I feel many people living there saw the chance of a lifetime to find a new tenant to take over their lease (poor newcomers not knowing what a nightmare can be living in some parts of those communes). I was house hunting in that period and I noticed this.
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Re: Buying a property in Bellevue GE, airplane noise?

Engine noise isn’t the only issue. On approach the airflow spills off the wingtips causing a vortex, a whirling whine sound ... Airbus aircraft are known to be the worst, although some operators (including Swiss and Lufthansa) have vortex disabling devices on their wings.

Unlike engine noise the vortex usually lasts only a few seconds but it can be very irritating. The a/m US Marine house used to host a softball league and the vortex noise was known to stop play for those few seconds.
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I think when it comes to noise, it is indeed a very personal thing. We as a couple just need to be outdoor so much that having to cover our ears all the time is a big no no.
Construction is not permitted in zones where road, aircraft or train noise is excessive. Flight noise is present and easy to ignore for all, but the most sensitive.

I've lived in the commune for 9 years and have yet to see anyone covering their ears from the sound of aircraft.

It's a small, family oriented commune that is conveniently nearby the airport, has excellent transport links, great beaches (port Gitana, and Port Saladin) and is not yet overdeveloped.
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I went to the Bellevue zoo a month ago with my son and I thought "poor animals" as the sound was atrocious and the planes quite low.
You do know that it's not a zoo?

It's a refuge for animals that have been abandoned, lost, injured, and are too young to be released back into the wild. Some animals have been seized (at the airport) from illegal smuggling.

The animals are looked after by volunteers, and the refuge is funded from grants and donations.

"poor animals" indeed..
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You do know that it's not a zoo?

It's a refuge for animals that have been abandoned, lost, injured, and are too young to be released back into the wild. Some animals have been seized (at the airport) from illegal smuggling.

The animals are looked after by volunteers, and the refuge is funded from grants and donations.

"poor animals" indeed..
Yes I know, I called it the zoo because was faster than writing "refuge for animals that have been abandoned, lost, injured, and are too young to be released back into the wild".

As this thread is on the noise level in Bellevue it was not an essential information
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Re: Buying a property in Bellevue GE, airplane noise?

Gosh!! You are not the first one who has nothing nice to say about Lombard.. My husband hates the lot.
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Gosh!! You are not the first one who has nothing nice to say about Lombard.. My husband hates the lot.

And Odier is worse than Odious?


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