Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Housing in general  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 14.10.2020, 00:05
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Geneva
Posts: 23
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
cranewings has no particular reputation at present
Appartment adverts without photos?

Hi everyone

I'm on a flat hunt and I find that there are adverts put up by regies where they do not show any photos. The building seems nice on the outside and nothing in the description suggests that it could be shabby. I wonder why then they do not put up any photos? I don't want to waste my time and be disappointed by my visit. If you have any experience with this, please share!

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 14.10.2020, 00:07
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Verbier
Posts: 19,342
Groaned at 412 Times in 306 Posts
Thanked 19,269 Times in 10,363 Posts
fatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Quote:
View Post
Hi everyone

I'm on a flat hunt and I find that there are adverts put up by regies where they do not show any photos. The building seems nice on the outside and nothing in the description suggests that it could be shabby. I wonder why then they do not put up any photos? I don't want to waste my time and be disappointed by my visit. If you have any experience with this, please share!

Thanks
White walls, white bathroom, white kitchen & parquet floor. No need for pictures
I keep seeing pics on Facebook all look the same especially if build in 70's or 80's, newer have bigger windows but all white.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank fatmanfilms for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 14.10.2020, 02:08
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Basel
Posts: 2,012
Groaned at 48 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 1,206 Times in 723 Posts
Landers has an excellent reputationLanders has an excellent reputationLanders has an excellent reputationLanders has an excellent reputation
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

No no no for 70s/80s you've got to still expect beige/brown fittings with patterned tiles unless the rent is in the higher 25% for the sqm.



As for the no photos maybe they don't have any and would rather have none than those with the tenants stuff. It it could be a Swiss thing - take a look at Ricardo for example - blurry photos with three or four word descriptions.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Landers for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 14.10.2020, 11:20
Axa's Avatar
Axa Axa is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Suhr, Aargau
Posts: 1,712
Groaned at 21 Times in 21 Posts
Thanked 2,243 Times in 1,059 Posts
Axa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Quote:
View Post
Hi everyone

I'm on a flat hunt and I find that there are adverts put up by regies where they do not show any photos. The building seems nice on the outside and nothing in the description suggests that it could be shabby. I wonder why then they do not put up any photos? I don't want to waste my time and be disappointed by my visit. If you have any experience with this, please share!

Thanks
I've seen ads like that but ignored them right away. If they don't bother enough for 2-3 photos, I guess they won't bother if the heating fails. Also consider that many tenants like to live in a trash bin. Only after they leave and a thorough cleaning it's possible to get a photo that won't be a fail online.

My only experience was leaving a flat. The real estate company asked nicely if I could take a few photos for an online ad two months before leaving, I did.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Axa for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 14.10.2020, 11:49
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 7,328
Groaned at 73 Times in 59 Posts
Thanked 10,812 Times in 4,388 Posts
doropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

In Swiss cities there is a shortage of modestly priced accommodation. Therefore, most flats that are advertised, by whatever means, are snapped up very quickly.

Since these are the current market conditions, landlords don't need to go to any special effort with their ads, as a new tenant will be along very quickly to sign the contract, yes, please, right away.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank doropfiz for this useful post:
  #6  
Old 14.10.2020, 12:32
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: VD
Posts: 319
Groaned at 6 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 364 Times in 181 Posts
AnnaSophiaA has a reputation beyond reputeAnnaSophiaA has a reputation beyond reputeAnnaSophiaA has a reputation beyond reputeAnnaSophiaA has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Quote:
View Post
In Swiss cities there is a shortage of modestly priced accommodation. Therefore, most flats that are advertised, by whatever means, are snapped up very quickly.

Since these are the current market conditions, landlords don't need to go to any special effort with their ads, as a new tenant will be along very quickly to sign the contract, yes, please, right away.
So true. Especially in the cities. Even for the small village where we were, I had a line of people wanting to see an apply for the apartment less than 48 hours after putting up the ads. Went to a lot of trouble to clean the place up, take nice pictures, even paid for an ad. Could have saved all that trouble. Not one response to the paid ad, all came through Anibis and Facebook, and the people who came and looked signed the application after a quick peak around!
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank AnnaSophiaA for this useful post:
  #7  
Old 14.10.2020, 20:42
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Zurich
Posts: 28
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts
neorion has no particular reputation at present
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

It could also be that the landlord or caretaker is old and is bad at photography (or just doesn't bother). In my experience (in different cities), a lack of photos doesn't correlate to the quality of the flat in any way. What it does do (as is evident by some comments here) is turn a bunch of people off the ads, so there is less interest in the posting. (It could also indicate a scam, but you would be able to check that pretty easily, as long as you don't wire people money without seeing the place first.) The current flat I live in had very sub-par photos on the posting, but it's a fantastic fit for us! And I love that the building is owned by an architect couple who really care about this place and their residents' well-being (even though they don't understand how cc works on e-mail! ).

My advice would be to check it out, if everything else about the posting fits your needs.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank neorion for this useful post:
  #8  
Old 14.10.2020, 20:45
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Up there over the fog
Posts: 971
Groaned at 132 Times in 105 Posts
Thanked 1,217 Times in 574 Posts
JackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

I believe it is because the agencies/landlords are not allowed to take photos with the tenant's furniture and private belongings. And also that even if the tenant agrees- the place is very untidy, beds unmade, washing up not done, washing hanging in bathroom, etc. This is what a friend told me who is an estate agent when I asked her why they put photos of untidy kitchens, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 14.10.2020, 20:52
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Verbier
Posts: 19,342
Groaned at 412 Times in 306 Posts
Thanked 19,269 Times in 10,363 Posts
fatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Quote:
View Post
I believe it is because the agencies/landlords are not allowed to take photos with the tenant's furniture and private belongings. And also that even if the tenant agrees- the place is very untidy, beds unmade, washing up not done, washing hanging in bathroom, etc. This is what a friend told me who is an estate agent when I asked her why they put photos of untidy kitchens, etc.
You would have thought they would have photos from after the last cleaning when the previous tenant moved out. Not sure if it's incompetence or just the Swiss minimalist lazy way, because they always did it like that, why change
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank fatmanfilms for this useful post:
  #10  
Old 14.10.2020, 21:19
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 10,755
Groaned at 78 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 17,958 Times in 8,044 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Quote:
View Post
I believe it is because the agencies/landlords are not allowed to take photos with the tenant's furniture and private belongings. And also that even if the tenant agrees- the place is very untidy, beds unmade, washing up not done, washing hanging in bathroom, etc. This is what a friend told me who is an estate agent when I asked her why they put photos of untidy kitchens, etc.
In our house hunt I've been stunned by some of the photos of houses/flats. The clutter, the messes including dirty pans on the stove, the way you can't even tell what a room was supposed to be, the hideous paint colors, the avocado green bathroom fixtures, the orange kitchen tiles from the 1970s... the prices! Just wow.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post:
  #11  
Old 14.10.2020, 22:56
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Up there over the fog
Posts: 971
Groaned at 132 Times in 105 Posts
Thanked 1,217 Times in 574 Posts
JackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Yes, same here. But I realised later it was with my 'owner and seller' cap on. When we sold houses, we always decluttered, and for photos and visits, it was immaculate, fresh flowers, cushions plumped up, kitchen and bathrooms immaculate, etc.


When I commented on this to my estate agent friends here- they said it is a nightmare to advertise rentals when tenants were still in situ, as you can't force them to tidy up - they said they often would have liked to do the washing up and tiday themselves- but that would be a breach of the tenant's rights. They don't wait till the last cleaning, as they do not want properties to remain empty n between tenants.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank JackieH for this useful post:
  #12  
Old 14.10.2020, 23:29
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Verbier
Posts: 19,342
Groaned at 412 Times in 306 Posts
Thanked 19,269 Times in 10,363 Posts
fatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Quote:
View Post
Yes, same here. But I realised later it was with my 'owner and seller' cap on. When we sold houses, we always decluttered, and for photos and visits, it was immaculate, fresh flowers, cushions plumped up, kitchen and bathrooms immaculate, etc.


When I commented on this to my estate agent friends here- they said it is a nightmare to advertise rentals when tenants were still in situ, as you can't force them to tidy up - they said they often would have liked to do the washing up and tiday themselves- but that would be a breach of the tenant's rights. They don't wait till the last cleaning, as they do not want properties to remain empty n between tenants.
Exactly, they should take the photos after the person has left, however due to greed they want access whilst someone else is paying rent!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 14.10.2020, 23:35
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Geneva
Posts: 98
Groaned at 34 Times in 23 Posts
Thanked 63 Times in 41 Posts
mikedragos is considered knowledgeablemikedragos is considered knowledgeablemikedragos is considered knowledgeable
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Quote:
View Post
Hi everyone

I'm on a flat hunt and I find that there are adverts put up by regies where they do not show any photos. The building seems nice on the outside and nothing in the description suggests that it could be shabby. I wonder why then they do not put up any photos? I don't want to waste my time and be disappointed by my visit. If you have any experience with this, please share!

Thanks
In Geneva, you will rarely find any of the established Regies publishing photos of the apartments inside. Some do, nonetheless, and in fact some of the smaller agencies are more likely to do so.

I don't think this has anything to do with any rules, rather it is their market and as long as people compete for the apartments the same way they do for jobs, they can get away with it. If you wish to find an apartment through a Regie, your best bet is to contact the current tenant, if known; or visit at the time of the group visit when organized.

You can find some ads with photos in glocals - mostly sublets or lease take-over; in fact, lease-take over is your best chance to get apartment that you want and of course get photos or see it yourself in advance from the current tenant.

I recently swapped places, and had no issues finding a replacement tenant. The regie nonetheless wished to advertise on their website, I offered photos but they said no need. At the end, they just gave it to one couple we recommended.

Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 15.10.2020, 12:46
Axa's Avatar
Axa Axa is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Suhr, Aargau
Posts: 1,712
Groaned at 21 Times in 21 Posts
Thanked 2,243 Times in 1,059 Posts
Axa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Quote:
View Post
Exactly, they should take the photos after the person has left, however due to greed they want access whilst someone else is paying rent!
If they ask nicely...it works.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 15.10.2020, 13:58
Capitan Harlock's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Geneva
Posts: 75
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 38 Times in 23 Posts
Capitan Harlock has no particular reputation at present
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

My apartment had no photos in the ad. The reason was an old lady has lived there for ages and the apartment was in awful state. However, the Regie wrote on the ad that the house would have been fully repainted, floor laminated and one of the bathrooms re-done.

As people have said you have better luck in finding photos of:
- apartments of people looking for someone to take over the lease
- apartment in new buildings. I saw some ads with pictures taken right after the building was done (so apartment brand new) and used in the ads now even if the building was now 5-7 years old.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 15.10.2020, 15:17
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 744
Groaned at 13 Times in 11 Posts
Thanked 268 Times in 192 Posts
minimimi is considered knowledgeableminimimi is considered knowledgeableminimimi is considered knowledgeable
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

Why not use previous photos when flat was last advertised?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank minimimi for this useful post:
  #17  
Old 15.10.2020, 18:53
pilatus1's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Milky Way
Posts: 1,720
Groaned at 143 Times in 99 Posts
Thanked 4,655 Times in 1,833 Posts
pilatus1 has a reputation beyond reputepilatus1 has a reputation beyond reputepilatus1 has a reputation beyond reputepilatus1 has a reputation beyond reputepilatus1 has a reputation beyond reputepilatus1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Appartment adverts without photos?

In my hunt for an apartment, I only looked at 2 places.

The first was in the city - nothing special about it, with outdated flooring, kitchen, bath, low ceilings, kind of dark, expensive rent - and about a hundred other people there waiting to see it and kiss the owner's rosy red butt cheeks.

The second, which was posted on the web with almost no info and no photos, had just been fully refurbished. 360 degree views, on a private street with fahrverbot unless you live here. Farm fields on the side. Loads of wildlife. 5 minutes walk to bus, 10 to train, 5 min drive and you're on the highway. 10 minute drive to city center. We and one other couple were the only applicants. Because, you know, if there are no pics, the place must be a sh!thole.

Been here almost 8 years now.
__________________
you are being programmed
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank pilatus1 for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LOLcatz instead of Adverts? MacGregor's Daughter Forum support 3 01.04.2012 18:37
Swiss adverts simon_ch Complaints corner 37 05.06.2011 10:48
Adverts on EF Uncle Max Forum support 67 18.02.2011 14:09
Television Adverts you like PlantHead General off-topic 9 18.08.2010 06:43


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 17:40.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0