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Does anyone please know how to go about assessing whether a washing machine could be installed in an apartment?

I have just moved to a new place and I'd rather not deal with the shared washing machine which is not very clean. However, I'm not sure whether a washing machine could be fitted into the apartment. The landlord allows it as long as it is professionally installed but I'm trying to assess the feasibility and potential costs.
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Re: Washing machine installation

Ask your neighbours to recommend a local plumber and ask for a quote. Good that you asked your landlord, as it is essential in case anything goes wrong and causes damage.
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Re: Washing machine installation

When I was living in the US and in college, I had a washing machine that hooked up to the kitchen sink faucet. It was on wheels so that it could be moved easily, and it attached to the sink faucet with a simple hose and adapter. It looked like a regular top-loading washing machine, just a bit smaller. It would drain into the sink. It actually worked really well, and I never had any problems with leaks or anything. I also had a dryer that just vented into a bucket of water. I was able to use it in a closet even.

I'm not sure if something like that exists here (though I'd be surprised if it didn't). But maybe it's something to consider, if that is available here, so that you wouldn't have to have plumbing hook-ups and a drain installed for a regular washing machine.
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Re: Washing machine installation

it is not allowed to have such installations by the vast majority of agencies- and he was specifically told it had to be installed professionally.
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it is not allowed to have such installations by the vast majority of agencies- and he was specifically told it had to be installed professionally.
Ahhh, okay. Sorry about that...

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Re: Washing machine installation

In my building it is allowed. I paid Fr. 250.-- to have it professionally installed (that was a few years ago) and about Fr. 640.-- at M-Electronics for a washing machine delivered and installed (it was on sale). M-Electronics has a good after sales service. Will you want a drying machine too or do you want to use the communal dryer?

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When I was living in the US and in college, I had a washing machine that hooked up to the kitchen sink faucet. It was on wheels so that it could be moved easily, and it attached to the sink faucet with a simple hose and adapter. It looked like a regular top-loading washing machine, just a bit smaller. It would drain into the sink. It actually worked really well, and I never had any problems with leaks or anything. I also had a dryer that just vented into a bucket of water. I was able to use it in a closet even.

I'm not sure if something like that exists here (though I'd be surprised if it didn't). But maybe it's something to consider, if that is available here, so that you wouldn't have to have plumbing hook-ups and a drain installed for a regular washing machine.
A friend of mine still has one connected like that. I remember mine like this in them days .... I had to sit on it while it was spinning to stop it from jumping about

OP, the connection is not the problem, can be done to every sink. Just adding two bits. The problem is more - do you have the space for a machine next to a sink, as you don't want the pipes crossing your morning paths.

You can easily do it yourself. Last time I had it done by a pro 'cause I was very busy at the time and didn't want to bother with such things and it was not expensive (sorry, long time ago, can't be more specific).

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When I was living in the US and in college, I had a washing machine that hooked up to the kitchen sink faucet...

I'm not sure if something like that exists here.
They so, we have one, though ours is hooked up to to where the bidet used to be hooked up to.

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Re: Washing machine installation

At the end of the day ... self installing a washing machine when Agency/landlord specifically asked for it to be done professionally, is just asking for trouble.

For permission btw, as all things Switzerland, it just depends on C/Kanton but always a good idea. In Vaud, it is a legal requirement, not sure if it is the only C/Kanton. Bad installation can not only cause noise, potential flood and water seepage damage- but reverse flow that could contaminate the water of other residents and even cause legionnaire's disease- so just plain not worth it.
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Bad installation can not only cause noise, potential flood and water seepage damage- but reverse flow that could contaminate the water of other residents and even cause legionnaire's disease.
Total nonsense.

Reverse flow? How?

Also, it's only connected to the cold water, so no chance of "legionnaire's disease" as that requires being connected to the hot rather than the cold!

You are clearly clueless.

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Re: Washing machine installation

it's pretty basic: you need somewhere with:

1. space
2. suppy of water
3. drain for the water
4. electricity

so normally you locate it in the kitchen or bathroom or utility room which have these things.

all you really need to do is measure to find a machine that fits and then you can buy it and order delivery + installation and they will do the rest.

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.....So some lack knowledge of the technical plumbing side, and others of the administrative steps. That's just no need to lash out at someone who doesn't know. Please don't.
Tom did not lash out at someone who doesn't know but at someone who repeatedly claimed to know.

OP asked a genuine question and got some decent answers. I doubt OP addressed nannies to change their pampers though.
And I also agree with Tom that not everybody must post in every thread, there is no such rule, it's perfectly okay to keep out of some things. I often do and it has not harmed me at all.
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Re: Washing machine installation

Thanks for your explanation, Curley.
I still think there was too much nastiness here. Even if Jackie doesn't know anything about anything, it's not a reason to be rude to her.

Certainly I agree with you and Tom that not everybody must post in every thread, and I, too, keep well away from some topics, and that decision is a good one.
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Re: Washing machine installation

You need to ask the building administration. Mine got installed for free by the admin, who sent a plumber. There was already a specific evacuation pipe for the machine, but the plumber changed the bathtub tap to add an additional faucet to which the machine is now connected.

The previous tenant had connected the machine directly onto the bathtub tap, and when the plumber saw it he expressed his dismay. He said that it can be dangerous for the building and I could have been liable for damages caused to the plumbing from an illegal installation. The agency probably hadn't spot the issue as it really was just a small screw piece that was attached to the tap.
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Hi,

Does anyone please know how to go about assessing whether a washing machine could be installed in an apartment?

I have just moved to a new place and I'd rather not deal with the shared washing machine which is not very clean. However, I'm not sure whether a washing machine could be fitted into the apartment. The landlord allows it as long as it is professionally installed but I'm trying to assess the feasibility and potential costs.
Thank you.
I just got a washing machine installed [although I confess not in an apartment]. It needed three things.

1. A power source, as in a plug.
2. Direct access to clean water [like the sink]
3. Direct access to waist water [the drain, so yes the sink]

The two rooms you'll could use will be the kitchen or the bathroom. But if its a modern apartment, neither going to be easy. You likely need a space at least 80cm x 80cm square for the thing. Your average washing machine will be least 60cmx60cm big and you'll need some clearance.
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Re: Washing machine installation

Normally is installed in:
- bathroom / toilet(smaller bathroom)


sometimes is:
- reduit, but not many have it
- in the corridor close to the bathroom / toillet

I have never seen it in kitchen, but theoretical why not, the water connections are there, it just sounds utterly strange for me. We learn...

In practice, if the water connections are prepared, you will be able to install it. Most modern apartments for market rent have it. The agency should know it. Btw modern machines have automatic valveses that close the water in the case of failure. There are scenarios when those can fail but chances are very low.
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