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your teaser text on Homegate is in English, this will put some people off.

There are more expensive 3.5 room places. The market certainly won't be dog-eat-dog like in Zurich, that's for sure.
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Old 05.03.2021, 16:53
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It sounds crazy but this is how the Swiss market works.
Nothing crazy about hold in the current rate until the tenant leaves and only the drop the rate if necessary....
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Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment

My experience from renting 3 Studios for my sister-in-law that left Switzerland is when I write in English even Swiss people write back, when they are interested.


Right now there are 2 Swiss tenants.



When we are desperate to rent, I ask my husband to write in German from his Tutti account and I write in English from my Tutti account.



I get more Emails than him.
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Hi,

you have 30 days to ask for a rent reduction if some condition apply.
You may not use this option, but you could suggest it to future tenants.
Here a story with reference to official websites: https://www.mustachianpost.com/2020/...-vacancy-rate/.

Hope it helps.
I could be wrong, but I thought from posts I read here that any rent reductions are only applied at the renewal of the contract.
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For the area its the most expensive flat of this size available. Remember this is not in Zurich, this is in a dead little village 20 minutes by train from Zurich.

In Zurich this price is totally normal.
I can't work out if you are being deceptive or just not very blessed with intiative and common sense. That apartment at almost 100m2 would be 2500 in a crappy area or 3000+chf in a decent area of Zurich. More in a really good area.

If you look on Homegate for apartments of this size in Langnau am Albis you will find that your apartment is not the most expensive nor the cheapest, it is pretty much in the middle or upper middle of the range for its class https://www.homegate.ch/rent/real-es...ablePrice-desc

How do you come to the conclusion of "It's grossly overpriced" and "can I being legal action against my landlord to lower the price"? I mean seriously, that is ridiculous.

You seem like a very alarmist person who either exaggerates things to suit their own purposes or is just perhaps a little neurotic.
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End of June is not that far away though ...
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Either I am too long in Switzerland or too used to Zürich prices but that is hardly grossly overpriced?
I have been out of CH for a few years, however thought it was a bargain, I was expecting to see a price tag of 3250 plus, based on the first post.
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Either I am too long in Switzerland or too used to Zürich prices but that is hardly grossly overpriced?
I thought the same.
It doesn’t seem outrageous to me for something so close to Zurich.
It’s a decent size and looks pretty nice from the photos.
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btw, how long is the commute by car? or PT?
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Old 05.03.2021, 18:29
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btw, how long is the commute by car? or PT?
To where? According to Google Maps it‘s a 9 minute walk to the station and in total 29 mins to Zurich main station, with some convenient stops for big employers based south of the centre. 10 minutes drive to the southern Zurich motorway junctions.

Nobody who is renting a CHF 2k apartment is going to commute by car into the centre of Zurich - parking is c. CHF 600 a month and if you were working on the north side of the city you‘d either catch the train to avoid the traffic or live closer to work.
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We were kind of desperate to find a place. When we were looking we literally could not even get a viewing.

Here's the details:
https://flatfox.ch/en/flat/hintere-g...m-albis/365901
Well, one thing about this thread and ad is that it bodes well for you... in that you must have found a cheaper place, or perhaps one where you're getting more for the same amount.

If your apartment is not considered (for whatever reason) as the latest, greatest, most desirable spot, such that your ad isn't attracting people by the droves, here are some more tips (for some hard work) to try to get rid of your flat as soon as possible:
  1. Speak to all your neighbours.
  2. Design an attractive flyer, and put one in every letterbox in the streets around yours. At least some of the people now living (and working) there will like being there and therefore they may have friends or relations who'd like to move into the area.
  3. Send the info to all the major employers in the area, who may need accommodation for their incoming staff. Try to write to someone specific, such as the HR department.
  4. Send the info to all the tertiary education institutes in the area, as they tend to have new people arriving in summer, for the start of the new academic year.
  5. Take a flyer to all the small shops in the area, and ask whether they would please hang up the ad on their noticeboard or in the window.
  6. Pop a flyer in the letterboxes of all the schools, clubs, sporting facilities, etc., too.
  7. if you have school-going children, go and see their teachers, with a flyer (or if seeing them is not allowed because of Covid, write a little note) and send some flyers with your child(ren).
  8. Go to the nearest Migros and Coop, which often also permit ads on a noticeboard: take note that they typically are allowed to be max. post-card size, often permitted only on the pre-printed card, but still free.
  9. If you are on Facebook, advertise in a Zurich group. If you are not, ask someone else to put up an ad there for you.
  10. You might consider ronorp, too, which you will need to join, to use.

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I can't work out if you are being deceptive or just not very blessed with intiative and common sense. That apartment at almost 100m2 would be 2500 in a crappy area or 3000+chf in a decent area of Zurich. More in a really good area.

If you look on Homegate for apartments of this size in Langnau am Albis you will find that your apartment is not the most expensive nor the cheapest, it is pretty much in the middle or upper middle of the range for its class https://www.homegate.ch/rent/real-es...ablePrice-desc

How do you come to the conclusion of "It's grossly overpriced" and "can I being legal action against my landlord to lower the price"? I mean seriously, that is ridiculous.

You seem like a very alarmist person who either exaggerates things to suit their own purposes or is just perhaps a little neurotic.
@BritSaffa: the price doesn't look that bad for the size of the apartment and the closeness to ZH. It takes some planning an experience to not pay 2 rents in different places while moving. 3 years ago I payed a for an studio as 2nd address close to the job. I was stuck paying that rent 4 months. Shit happens, lesson learned, plan better next time.

@Chuff: I guess all that was unwarranted Flatfox.ch was mentioned, the part about clueless expat was honest. So, it's obvious no knowledge about homegate, immoscout, tutti or anibis to make any comparisons.

How can people reach to conclusions? By talking to clueless neighbors, by taking too seriously the opinion of someone who said "overpriced". With a bit of experience one learns and adapts.

When I arrived to CH i also took too seriously some misguided opinions. I do better now. If I go live somewhere else, quite probably the problem will repeat. It's just life, take it easy. Be worried of becoming an expert that never makes any mistake, that only means you never leave your bubble of expertise.

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I can't work out if you are being deceptive or just not very blessed with intiative and common sense. That apartment at almost 100m2 would be 2500 in a crappy area or 3000+chf in a decent area of Zurich. More in a really good area.

If you look on Homegate for apartments of this size in Langnau am Albis you will find that your apartment is not the most expensive nor the cheapest, it is pretty much in the middle or upper middle of the range for its class https://www.homegate.ch/rent/real-es...ablePrice-desc

How do you come to the conclusion of "It's grossly overpriced" and "can I being legal action against my landlord to lower the price"? I mean seriously, that is ridiculous.

You seem like a very alarmist person who either exaggerates things to suit their own purposes or is just perhaps a little neurotic.
I'm sorry you think I am a deceptive, neurotic, alarmist with no common sense or initiative.

I hope one day though, someone moderating these forums will identify you as the awful bully that you are and realise that such toxicity brings nothing of value to this community - until then feel free to ignore all my posts so that I can find help from the people that do actually want to help me settle into Swiss life.
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@BritSaffa: the price doesn't look that bad for the size of the apartment and the closeness to ZH. It takes some planning an experience to not pay 2 rents in different places while moving. 3 years ago I payed a for an studio as 2nd address close to the job. I was stuck paying that rent 4 months. Shit happens, lesson learned, plan better next time.

@Chuff: I guess all that was unwarranted

Flatfox.ch was mentioned, the part about clueless expat was honest. So, it's obvious no knowledge about homegate, immoscout, tutti or anibis to make any comparisons.

How can people reach to conclusions? By talking to clueless neighbors, by taking too seriously the opinion of someone who said "overpriced". With a bit of experience one learns and adapts.

When I arrived to CH i also took too seriously some misguided opinions. I do better now. If I go live somewhere else, quite probably the problem will repeat. It's just life, take it easy. Be worried of becoming an expert that never makes any mistake, that only means you never leave your bubble of expertise.
Yeah totally, I mean what you are saying is basically what the few Swiss friends we have made have been saying and our neighbours.

I think we are probably going to have to just bite the bullet but I will still at least try - CHF4k is worth a bit of research and effort
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It sounds crazy but this is how the Swiss market works. Landlords, which are often corporations, would rather let an appartement sit empty than reduce the rent by even a centime.
not only landlords. I am eyeing a car which is on autoscout for almost a year. The seller has dropped the price by 9k but still is unable to sell it, guess why.
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I think we are probably going to have to just bite the bullet but I will still at least try - CHF4k is worth a bit of research and effort
That's the sales attitude!

Took a quick look at your ad in flatfox and noticed some important things missing: i) the rental period. In your case you're looking for a nachmieter which literally means next renter, someone taking the contract before the end of the minimum period, and (ii) what about the rental deposit, 2 or 3 months?
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I can't work out if you are being deceptive or just not very blessed with intiative and common sense...
Totally out of order. I've much to thank EF for over 10+years: some great information and plenty of charming people, some of whom have become good personal friends. But there are also some really sanctimonious misanthropes here too. Look, someone's in a spot and is seeking help. What value is that sort of personal abuse?
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Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment

The advert suggests pets are allowed. If this is accurate this should be an angle you promote heavily to potential tenants as it’s the exception - rather than the norm here.
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Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment

By what stretch of the imagination is 2k/month for 3.5 rooms over priced in Zurich?

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As others have said, the problem may not simply be the price:


1. Is the apartment available immediately ? If so, put it on the ad and ensure that it's clear that this is a 'nachmieter', not a new lease.

2. It's in Langnau am albis. Not a particulary desirable place in town.
3. We're still in semi-lockdown, not many new people arriving into Switzerland, and most people are sitting tight, I would love to see the official statistics on how many people are moving house this year for the official moving date compared to two years ago - I suspect the numbers are very much lower.

4. If it's a nice 'work from home' place, put it on the ad. right now that's probably the key question for most people - can I live in this apartment at home - sunny, office, airy, garden etc.
5. I'm surprised your lease ends in June, as it does not coincide with an official moving date - are you sure ? Have you actually given notice and had the leaving date agreed (are you already out ?).

6. I would never look at an apartment on Anibis or TUtti- they are usually scammers. Homegate, Immoscout24 and Ronorp, possibly flatfox, would be my sources, make sure you are advertising on all.



Have you had any enquiries/applications at all ? How long have you been advertising ? It's actually the best time to advertise right now - people will be looking at moving end March or end April.


And put an ad also at the local migros, Lidl, Coop etc. In English and German, with your contact phone number... more likely someone will want to move locally in Langnau... who already knows the area and likes your flat.



To pass on the lease you only need one good application which you give to the landlord... you don't need a whole portfolio.
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