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05.03.2021, 21:47
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | CHF4k is worth a bit of research and effort  | | | | | Where do you get 4k from if you are advertising it for 2k?
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05.03.2021, 21:55
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | Where do you get 4k from if you are advertising it for 2k? 
Tom | | | | | Was there another thread where you were talking about dumb posts?
OP wants to move out mid-April, has to pay rent of 2k a month to the end of June. May and June‘s rent = c. 4k.
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05.03.2021, 21:57
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment
The same price im paying for a 3.5 in Frick ...
(Mine is both very near the station and nice but still yours looks fair value to me ...)
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05.03.2021, 22:29
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | Was there another thread where you were talking about dumb posts?  | | | | | Bitch, it's Friday. You still at work?
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05.03.2021, 22:39
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | Bitch, it's Friday. You still at work?
Tom | | | | | Well my office is about 15 metres from where I’m sat right now, but I’ve not been in it for about five and a half hours. How’s commuting?
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05.03.2021, 22:55
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | Well my office is about 15 metres from where I’m sat right now, but I’ve not been in it for about five and a half hours. How’s commuting? | | | | | 25 minutes each way, so not bad.
Soon I will do it by bike. Some really nice roads down there.
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment
So, forgive me as I have not read the entire thread but I am confused:
OP, you are paying CHF 2050 a month for an apartment which you feel is overpriced but your lease ends in late June and you want out now. Okay, if I am optimistic, the odds re: you finding a renter to take over your lease before late May is slim to nil.
Unless you found another rental property for free, why are you even contemplating a move before your lease expires? I receive daily updates on rentals in Zurich from both Homegate and Comparis and I can assure you, you are not overpaying and would be hard pressed to find a rental closer to Zurich for the price you are paying currently given the square meters- unless it is in very poor condition.
Have you already found another rental for the same square meters, closer to Zurich at a better price? Now, I am curious | The following 6 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
06.03.2021, 00:35
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment
It would be interesting to understand what is wrong with this apartment. As many have suggested - the price seems absolutely OK for this size of apartment. 3 days ago I went to an open viewing in Adliswil (nowhere near the Adliswil center, renovated 2.5 rooms, 55m^2, CHF 1700/month). There were tons of people coming to see it. It was gone next day after the viewing. And Langnau am Albis is just 2 or 3 train stops further. So I really don't understand.
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06.03.2021, 06:36
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | I'm sorry you think I am a deceptive, neurotic, alarmist with no common sense or initiative.
I hope one day though, someone moderating these forums will identify you as the awful bully that you are and realise that such toxicity brings nothing of value to this community | | | | |
So you have ruffled a few feathers. I can, however, see the other point of view, even though I don't agree with the language. You have gotten yourself in this situation yourself and instead of looking for sound solutions (Many of which you have received here, by the way) you want to lash out at the landlord, legally. The attitude of 'I've been treated unfairly, so I'm going to sue' (especially if you haven't) usually draws criticism.
You should have (in my opinion) approached this as 'I'm in a bit of a bind, can someone give me some advice on how to optimise my listing'
Also, we have a large (I'm guessing?) community. Why don't you advertise it here?
Anyway, you have received some great advice already, so hopefully you can solve this more quickly.
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06.03.2021, 08:04
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | I'm sorry you think I am a deceptive, neurotic, alarmist with no common sense or initiative. | | | | | For once I agree with Chuff.
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06.03.2021, 08:21
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | |
6. I would never look at an apartment on Anibis or TUtti- they are usually scammers. Homegate, Immoscout24 and Ronorp, possibly flatfox, would be my sources, make sure you are advertising on all.
Have you had any enquiries/applications at all ? How long have you been advertising ? It's actually the best time to advertise right now - people will be looking at moving end March or end April.
And put an ad also at the local migros, Lidl, Coop etc. In English and German, with your contact phone number... more likely someone will want to move locally in Langnau... who already knows the area and likes your flat.
To pass on the lease you only need one good application which you give to the landlord... you don't need a whole portfolio.
| | | | | Really? Could this be regional? We had to get someone last summer to take over our lease. It was pretty last minute too—we were looking in late June/early July for an August 15 takeover of our lease. I got responses from Anibis and from Facebook. None from ImmoScout. Those were the only ads we put up—didn’t even have time to get flyers out locally as we had three people within a few days, ultimately only one applied for the apartment but he was financially capable so we knew we’d be good with that one. Of course we could have just been lucky. It was a good apartment for a good price even if it was third floor with no elevator.
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07.03.2021, 07:49
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | The advert suggests pets are allowed. If this is accurate this should be an angle you promote heavily to potential tenants as it’s the exception - rather than the norm here. | | | | | There is another unit in the same building for rent and the ad for that unit says no pets allowed so what is the deal here? Are the units individually owned?
If you have a pet then one should be allowed as the rental conditions for finding a nachmieter ( someone to take over the lease) remain the same.
1st floor without a lift isn't an issue for some people.
Shared laundry is less attractive. What is the system? Sign up sheet? Specific day?
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16.04.2021, 06:22
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | I'm sorry you think I am a deceptive, neurotic, alarmist with no common sense or initiative.
I hope one day though, someone moderating these forums will identify you as the awful bully that you are and realise that such toxicity brings nothing of value to this community - until then feel free to ignore all my posts so that I can find help from the people that do actually want to help me settle into Swiss life. | | | | | Totally agree on this. I have also fallen foul of a few of the forum ‘veterans’ or ‘legends’ on here. Most people are really helpful but a small minority like to dole out abuse with one hand and, err, wisdom with another. I even received an abusive direct message last year in response to a sensitive thread on medical care. Gee thanks. The ad hominem attacks on EH are totally unjustified.
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16.04.2021, 10:02
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment
I just came across this thread this morning but it basically contains everything that is wrong with EF, plus the good stuff too - with some actual helpful advice.
Good luck OP, ignore the usual bullies & don't take it personally - hope you get into your dream flat soon! And don't give up on this forum, it can be very helpful.
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16.04.2021, 10:26
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Hi BritSaffa,
Don't listen to those people calling you naive and you are not clueless you just made a mistake.
May I present myself, I'm krlock and I'm a very qualified property disputs lawyer. You are totally right and I can immediately help get the landlord to reduce the rent by at least half, I've done it many times. We just need to come to an arrangement, usually my clients pay me upfront and then I do the work.
PM me for more details.
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property disputs lawyer | Quote: | |  | | | We have a lease agreement which ends at the end of June.
The landlord has said we can leave early but we have to find a new tenant.
The problem is this apartment is way way overpriced and no one is interested. There are some bigger apartments in the area new builds which are less expensive.
We were clueless expats. Had no clue we were over paying.
Do we have any legal recourse to get the landlord to reduce the rent so that we can find someone else? | | | | | | The following 4 users would like to thank krlock3 for this useful post: | | 
16.04.2021, 10:38
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | There is another unit in the same building for rent and the ad for that unit says no pets allowed so what is the deal here? Are the units individually owned? ..... | | | | | Not necessarily. It's the same here. There are two houses with flats all owned by the same. But usually they allow one dog per house and they limit the cats as well. Yet if cats move out of one flat, some other tenant in an other flat may get some. It's not fixed to the apartment but the amount of cats/dogs.
Except for me because I had them write one cat into my lease.
Actually I find that system quiet reasonable.
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16.04.2021, 11:39
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | Totally agree on this. I have also fallen foul of a few of the forum ‘veterans’ or ‘legends’ on here. Most people are really helpful but a small minority like to dole out abuse with one hand and, err, wisdom with another. I even received an abusive direct message last year in response to a sensitive thread on medical care. Gee thanks. The ad hominem attacks on EH are totally unjustified. | | | | | Ah yes, the PM vitriol, an EF classic. I got one that not only attacked me viciously but also told me that the person in question had been keeping note of everything I ever said on the forum. While I appreciate people paying attention, this was next level...
I'll be the first to admit that my responses can be a bit harsh, especially when someone has evidently not even tried to Google properly. I understand that the search function is not always a clear option, the same issue can be observed on Facebook groups. However, there should surely be a sort of mental backstop that tells you "hang on, what are the odds that someone else has asked where to buy rubbish bags? I wonder if I can search for that somewhere so I can get to the answer right away rather than waiting for someone to tell me..."? Maybe that is just me though.
Sometimes it is not clear whether someone is feeling entitled beyond belief or simply not that bright. The two often look very similar, to be honest. It is simply too tempting to assume the former and absolutely roast them, especially on a Friday.
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16.04.2021, 11:57
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | Sometimes it is not clear whether someone is feeling entitled beyond belief or simply not that bright. The two often look very similar, to be honest. | | | | | Yes, at first they may very well look similar. I agree with you that sometimes an attitude of "entitled beyond belief" does show through, after several posts along the same lines. And some people just post oppositionally, for the hell of it, with little regard for how their words might hurt others and show themselves in a bad light.
There's at least a third option, though: that a poster is new in Switzerland and frazzled from all that the move entailed, so if they can just find one nice person who will tell them the straight answer to their question (even if the question seems banale to anyone already settled in here, like the example you gave of where to buy rubbish bags), or give them some straightforward advice, that might save them from an emotional crash. That seems worth it, to me.
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16.04.2021, 12:27
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| | Re: Finding a replacement tenant for grossly overpriced apartment | Quote: | |  | | | Sometimes it is not clear whether someone is feeling entitled beyond belief or simply not that bright. The two often look very similar, to be honest. It is simply too tempting to assume the former and absolutely roast them, especially on a Friday. | | | | | We have to understand as well that people come on here as a last result frustrated and confused, so their language may be more exaggerated to the actual situation. Also, we don't know their full situation and what they may be going through ...
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