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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

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For 2000chf I'lll offer to take care of it all for you....


If printing a little sheet with 'I have stuff available as I am moving out' and a link to a place where you listed everything online , is too hard, then you must have money to pay someone else to solve your problem



Everyone here has confirmed that what your landlord/real estate agent has done is absolutely normal, and you are responsible for emptying the apartment and cleaning it before you move out...


The more time you waste arguing here, the fewer days you have to list your stuff on line and hopefully get rid of it for free. I assume you also need to pay someone to move your stuff to the new place ?
thanks Swisspea, this point has been made crystal clear, I have understood it since several days.
Did you see my yesteray's post in this thread? (post number 29)
you gave me this brilliant idea to propose the furnitures to neighbors so I wish to make it happen. but I encountered more obstacles. and this was the only reason why I re-posted yesteray to have your opinions


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I assume OP is still fixated on the idea that he found new tenants willing to take the apartment as it is (with his furniture) and can't see beyond his little bubble.

It can happen to all of us. But yes, you're spot on: the more time he pays to finding solutions for things he cannot change, the less time he has to actually do some damage control here.
Thanks. No your assumption is wrong, cf. post number 29 I asked a new/different question so I re-posted. I don't get why people have the time to reply me (since my post yesterday) but don't have the time to read it


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I've learned that, in life, there are some who choose to go through the game in 'difficult' mode.
Interesting. Sounds wise. Are you talking about my initial post or my post yesterday? I am open to listen to your criticism. Thanks



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OP is currently discussing if the landlord should pay the 2000 CHF.
Come on man! please read (my post yesterday post number 29) before imagining things. I only re-posted to ask a question about reaching out to neighbors

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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

This is getting a little bit funny. Why do you think your stuff has any value for future tenant? There is only a slim chance they will take the furniture. Even for free. I am starting to think that you are hiding some damage behind sofa

Since you are not searching for an easy way out. Here is the suggestion. Rent a storage place, bring your furniture there. When new tenant moves in, wait around the corner for them to show up and talk them into taking your furniture.
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best way to reach out to neighbors to propose my furnitures to them

Morning EF
I need to empty my apartment by end-April and wish to propose my furnitures for a cheap price or even free to my neighbors. As not all items enter in the tiny elevator, I think there is a higher chance that someone living here takes it as there is less floors to climb/carry.

I talked with a few neighbors and realized that there is little chance that someone who already lives here since a while to be interested in my furnitures, the apartments are quite small and people don't have enough space. So my hope was only the newly arrived or the ones who will move in soon.

I asked the regie if they could inform the new tenants that I will move out and give away furnitures and give them my Email address/phone number and she replied "we regret to inform that we don't offer this kind of service".

QUESTION 1: Is the regie's approach normal? I am surprised that they don't even want to transfer the info to new tenants as it takes them a few minutes and could make everyone happy..

In our builiding there is not even a bulletin board for tenants to put ads, I asked the cleaning guy and he told me that I can't post an advertisements in the building because the regie doesn't like it.

QUESTION 2: So my only way to reach out to neighbors is to print 60 pages of advertisements(there are 60 mailboxes) and put in their mailboxes, knowing that at least 95% of them would not be interested in it? (because they lived here since long time)

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[B][U]QUESTION 1: Is the regie's approach normal?
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QUESTION 2: So my only way to reach out to neighbors is to print 60 pages of advertisements(there are 60 mailboxes) and put in their mailboxes, knowing that at least 95% of them would not be interested in it? (because they lived here since long time)
YES!

And do NOT put them in the mailboxes if people who have anti-spam stickers!

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Re: best way to reach out to neighbors to propose my furnitures to them

1. It's up to the agency whether they pass any info on to new tenants or not.

2. Since you say you've talked to a few neighbours and get the impression they wouldn't be interested in your stuff don't bother to waste your time with that idea. Follow up on the other suggestions from your other thread.

You can even advertise the stuff here on the forum since you have enough posts for the Market Place.
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I first asked the regie if they could tell me the names of the tenants who will move in April. the employee refused saying it was confidential. I then asked if she could inform the new arrivals that I will move out and give away furnitures and give them my Email address/phone number and she said "we regret to inform that we don't offer this kind of service".

QUESTION 1: Is the regie's approach normal? I am surprised that they don't even want to transfer the info to new tenants as it takes them a few minutes and could make everyone happy..

Ever heard of data protection? They cannot by law give you that information
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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

It seems to me that you are running in circles.

Many members have already answered your questions...

Question 1: yes, approach is perfectly normal. I would be pissed if I was moving into a new apartment and old tenants called me to offer me their furniture!!! Not to mention privacy, why would the Régie give you other people personal details?

Furthermore, imagine what would happen if they gave you the details, the new tenants bought something from you and it broke ... they would complain to the Régie!
So, no, they could have accepted the proposed tenants but they didn't have to.

Question 2: you said yourself that neighbours have been there for a long time and probably won't be interested in the furniture.

There are several fb groups where you can give away stuff for free, or go to your local coop/migros and advertise there.

The more you wait, the less chance you have of getting rid of your stuff for free. After that, you will have to rent a van and get rid of it yourself.
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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

The Friday thread that refuses to die!

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Old 25.03.2021, 09:11
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Re: best way to reach out to neighbors to propose my furnitures to them

Let's play a game. Guess the word.

If you don't want anymore an object, and other people is not interested in said object, how would you call this object?
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The Friday thread that refuses to die!

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I was thinking the same!!! We gave several answers. Over. And over. And over.
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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

Honestly, the OP seems to be a particular example of someone lacking in basic common sense. I mean really... you want the name and number of the people moving in so you can pressure them (however politely) to take your furniture?

Make a big thread on EF selling or giving away all of your furniture... usually you will get people interested. Also Facebook groups have tons of students etc looking for cheap furniture.

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YES!



YES!

And do NOT put them in the mailboxes if people who have anti-spam stickers!

Tom
Thanks, I appreciate the fact that you answer to my actual questions.





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1. It's up to the agency whether they pass any info on to new tenants or not.

2. Since you say you've talked to a few neighbours and get the impression they wouldn't be interested in your stuff don't bother to waste your time with that idea. Follow up on the other suggestions from your other thread.

You can even advertise the stuff here on the forum since you have enough posts for the Market Place.
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It seems to me that you are running in circles.

Many members have already answered your questions...

Question 1: yes, approach is perfectly normal. I would be pissed if I was moving into a new apartment and old tenants called me to offer me their furniture!!! Not to mention privacy, why would the Régie give you other people personal details?

Furthermore, imagine what would happen if they gave you the details, the new tenants bought something from you and it broke ... they would complain to the Régie!
So, no, they could have accepted the proposed tenants but they didn't have to.

Question 2: you said yourself that neighbours have been there for a long time and probably won't be interested in the furniture.

There are several fb groups where you can give away stuff for free, or go to your local coop/migros and advertise there.

The more you wait, the less chance you have of getting rid of your stuff for free. After that, you will have to rent a van and get rid of it yourself.
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Yes I said the existing neighbors would probably not be interested, but my target is to reach out to those who just moved in or will move in, is it so hard to understand?



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Honestly, the OP seems to be a particular example of someone lacking in basic common sense.

Make a big thread on EF selling or giving away all of your furniture... usually you will get people interested. Also Facebook groups have tons of students etc looking for cheap furniture.
Maybe, but did you see I said that some of my objects don't enter the tiny elevator?
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Yes I said the existing neighbors would probably not be interested, but my target is to reach out to those who just moved in or will move in, is it so hard to understand?

How hard to understand is data protection?
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How hard to understand is data protection?
I understand they can't give me the names, but I think it was not very helpful/nice to refuse to transfer my contact details and the message to the newly arrived. or are you saying this is also considered a data protection violation?
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Maybe, but did you see I said that some of my objects don't enter the tiny elevator?
Somehow, said objects were taken into the apartment in first place. Could it be because they were transported in smaller parts and later assembled into their current size of non-fitting in the small elevator?
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Somehow, said objects were taken into the apartment in first place. Could it be because they were transported in smaller parts and later assembled into their current size of non-fitting in the small elevator?
my previous tenant bought all these furnitures. Her employer offered her a relocation package. So proffesionals did this work. I don't have any details as I am not entitled to relocation company...
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I understand they can't give me the names, but I think it was not very helpful/nice to refuse to transfer my contact details and the message to the newly arrived. or are you saying this is also considered a data protection violation?

Yes, they are not allowed to forward your data to third parties.



Unless you want to set up an agreement with them, waiving all your rights etc etc.

Which the company won´t do, as that is not their business.
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my previous tenant bought all these furnitures. Her employer offered her a relocation package. So there are pros who did this. I don't have any details as I am not entitled to relocation company...
Well, it's called a life lesson. It was not your problem in first place, previous tenant should have said some nice words and left without sweating at all. Now you own the problem. You'll do better next time.

I shared an apartment for a few years. There was always the generous flatmate that wanted to donate furniture when leaving. We has as a rule that people must leave with all their furniture. You cannot imagine the ire in their eyes when the remaining flatmates showed this line in the contract.
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Maybe, but did you see I said that some of my objects don't enter the tiny elevator?
As it seems unlikely that your apartment was built around the monstrously huge furniture, you can probably dismantle them. If yes, this usually involves turning screws in a generally anti-clockwise direction. Once the components are no longer attached to each other, you should be able to stack them into groups which fit into the tiny lift.

Perhaps it’s wise to remember you have to man the lift for each trip (don’t fill it up) and not cover the buttons while loading it.

Apologies if this has been covered before – but you do seem to be going around in circles a bit
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Somehow, said objects were taken into the apartment in first place. Could it be because they were transported in smaller parts and later assembled into their current size of non-fitting in the small elevator?
drat! beat me to it
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