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Re: best way to reach out to neighbors to propose my furnitures to them

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Well, it's called a life lesson. It was not your problem in first place, previous tenant should have said some nice words and left without sweating at all. Now you own the problem. You'll do better next time.

I shared an apartment for a few years. There was always the generous flatmate that wanted to donate furniture when leaving. We has as a rule that people must leave with all their furniture. You cannot imagine the ire in their eyes when the remaining flatmates showed this line in the contract.
actually she charged me 2000 CHF for the furnitures etc. As I almost didn't have my own furniture at that moment. I accepted it. Now I have learnt this lesson next time in such situation I would not take any furniture that I don't need or will struggle to get rid of...
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Old 25.03.2021, 10:25
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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

Carry the stuff down the stairs.

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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

I had to sell all my IKEA stuff when leaving Germany. I sold almost everything in two weeks by putting offers on the internet, using only Kleinanzeigen (German website for local offers). There were few people who messaged me, arranged a meeting and then ghosted me, but in the end it was a very successful process. People are very happy to get furniture for a very small fee, and a majority of them arrives, looks if the furniture piece matches the description, pays, and leaves immediately. And my apartment was on a third floor without a lift. I recovered ca. 30-40% of the initial price since the furniture was few months old, and it didn't require a lot of work on my side! Just spend an hour making decent photos and writing the offers.
And when your are left with furniture pieces that you can't sell and/or are damaged, the process is simple as well: check on the website of your local commune the rules and prices of bulky waste. For example, my Gemeinde requires buying special stamps according to the weight of the item, but they specify the maximum dimension of such garbage. Then, you buy a screwdriver, a hammer, maybe pliers. IKEA furniture is very easy to disassemble, all instructions are online, and the only problems arise when screws are damaged - that's why you need pliers and a hammer. Decompose the furniture piece into a set of pieces that fit into legal limits, put the stamps on, carry it downstairs, and observe on the next garbage collection day how all your problems magically disappear.


It's incredible how much time you spent on asking questions and arguing when you didn't like the answers. If you had created the online offers on the first day this was recommended to you, you would have a great chance of getting rid of at least half of your furniture.
As others explained, the landlord agency is not required to take any tenants proposed to you, they are not required to help you in any way to get rid of your furniture, they are legally permitted from providing you with personal information of the next tenant unless they express such wish by themselves, and the main reason why they're being hired by the landlord is to protect the owners from such nonsense. I couldn't imagine a worse advice in such situation than "try to contact the actual owners".
Their business model is optimized to provide the best experience to landlords, and their fees don't include the billing rate for "unusual requests of leaving tenants that we are not legally obligated to handle". Why should their company spend money to solve your problem - it might look to you as few minutes spent on writing emails, but agent's time costs money.

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but that's the reality - nobody cares about your furniture except you, and you greatly overestimate the willingness of others to be interested in your problems.
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Old 25.03.2021, 13:57
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...the main reason why they're being hired by the landlord is to protect the owners from such nonsense. I couldn't imagine a worse advice in such situation than "try to contact the actual owners"...
This.

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Re: best way to reach out to neighbors to propose my furnitures to them

Sometimes I see adverts with lease takeover where only the ones who will buy the furniture will be accepted. And they want x000 CHF for the stuff

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Well, it's called a life lesson. It was not your problem in first place, previous tenant should have said some nice words and left without sweating at all. Now you own the problem. You'll do better next time.
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Sometimes I see adverts with lease takeover where only the ones who will buy the furniture will be accepted. And they want x000 CHF for the stuff
Such clauses are generally void. See also this article https://www.srf.ch/sendungen/kassens...ar-uebernehmen
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Old 27.03.2021, 21:26
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Sometimes I see adverts with lease takeover where only the ones who will buy the furniture will be accepted. And they want x000 CHF for the stuff
The management company isn't interested is someone taking over the lease, so even if this was legal (it's not) it simply doesn't matter, as there is no lease to take over!

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Re: best way to reach out to neighbors to propose my furnitures to them

Yes, that is exactly the case as listed in the article. Good to know. Thanks!

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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

This might be a good explanation why companies are spending money on online offers and visitations, even when the current tenant proposes new tenants, as it was in my case. Tenants might have been selected through such clauses or it could easily lead to "selling" apartment rentals on very competetive markets. It happened to me once that an interested party tried to bribe me to take down the offer, cancel all pending visitations and propose only them as the next tenant.
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Old 27.03.2021, 23:06
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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

If you haven't talked to ALL 60 tenants, don't be so sure no one is interested. I think it would be worthwhile to print a few flyers and put them in mailboxes.

A few years ago a lady who had lived here for many years was moving out. She told everyone to come and label whatever we want, even if it is for a friend. We scored a newer raclette grill, a nice kettle with programmable temp, and window screens. Another neighbor got some nice glass shelves for storing knick-knacks. Another neighbor got the living room furniture to give to a friend's family. Someone else took the book shelves, as they were nicer than what the person already had. You might think no one wants your stuff but if they have been there longer, their stuff might be old and outdated and yours just might be newer.

Unfortunately, what you had hoped for isn't going to work. It's time to stop complaining and start doing what you can so you can hand over an empty apartment.
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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

Thanks, but if you check the timeline, from the 23rd of March I stopped talking about my first post/question, I started another thread asking feasible ways to reach out to neighbors but a moderator merged my new thread to the old thread so it becomes POST number 43 in the current thread , and then plenty of people continued replying to the first question without replying the "how to reach out to neighbor" post and bashed me for not having moved on even I already wrote several times that I don't need answer for my intial question any more as it has become crystal clear since several days. The worst is I can't edit the title of the thread or the content of post number 1, I would have done this since at least the 23rd of March


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If you haven't talked to ALL 60 tenants, don't be so sure no one is interested. I think it would be worthwhile to print a few flyers and put them in mailboxes.

A few years ago a lady who had lived here for many years was moving out. She told everyone to come and label whatever we want, even if it is for a friend. We scored a newer raclette grill, a nice kettle with programmable temp, and window screens. Another neighbor got some nice glass shelves for storing knick-knacks. Another neighbor got the living room furniture to give to a friend's family. Someone else took the book shelves, as they were nicer than what the person already had. You might think no one wants your stuff but if they have been there longer, their stuff might be old and outdated and yours just might be newer.

Unfortunately, what you had hoped for isn't going to work. It's time to stop complaining and start doing what you can so you can hand over an empty apartment.
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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

As said before, if time is running away from you- and you have a couple of pieces that cannot be dismantled (and most can) then protect the floor, and get a sledge hammer to it and take away the smaller pieces.

No-one is being unfriendly here- but the reality is ... the reality. You have to return the flat empty and spotlessly clean- whatever agreement you had with the previous tenant has nothing, ZERO, to do with you contract with the owner/regie.

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Thanks, but if you check the timeline, from the 23rd of March I stopped talking about my first post/question, I started another thread asking feasible ways to reach out to neighbors but a moderator merged my new thread to the old thread so it becomes POST number 43 in the current thread , and then plenty of people continued replying to the first question without replying the "how to reach out to neighbor" post and bashed me for not having moved on even I already wrote several times that I don't need answer for my intial question any more as it has become crystal clear since several days. The worst is I can't edit the title of the thread or the content of post number 1, I would have done this since at least the 23rd of March
Probably because that had been answered multiple times already.... ?
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As said before, if time is running away from you- and you have a couple of pieces that cannot be dismantled (and most do) then protect the floor, and get a sledge hammer to it and take away the smaller pieces.

No-one is being unfriendly here- but the reality is ... the reality. You have to return the flat empty and spotlessly clean- whatever agreement you had with the previous tenant has nothing, ZERO, to do with you contract with the owner/regie.
1. the hammer suggestion is interesting, I haven't thought about it.
2. I haven't said people are unfriendly here, I said lots of people don't read the later posts and continued replying to initial post and I already tried my best to avoid this: by starting a differnt thread and trying to edit the title and content



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Probably because that had been answered multiple times already.... ?
Yes, but you can't deny that lots of people don't read the later posts and continued replying to or bashing the initial post. I stopped replying to this thread since a few days if you check the timeline
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Old 28.03.2021, 12:17
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Re: regie refuses to consider the candidates I submitted&force me to empty the apartm

Unless it is antique high quality furniture, it comes apart with simple tools.

And we have some antique beds (2-500 years old) that come apart, as does the 150 year old grandfather clock.

The 150 year old wardrobe, not.

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