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Re: Apartment parking charge station for hybrid / electric cars .. who pays?

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"Fast charging station" is a misnomer: the fastest charging A/C is 11kWh (with 3 phase). Fast charging is D/C and anywhere from 50-250kWh and only available at Tesla Superchargers, Ionoty etc. Not domestically.
kW, NOT kWh!

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Re: Apartment parking charge station for hybrid / electric cars .. who pays?

Tripped over a cable running across the pavement from a flat to a EV the other day.
There was a recent discussion from management in the company about getting EVīs as company cars for the techies.
Until we pointed out that we drive hundreds of Kmīs and simply donīt have time to plug the thing in and go for a coffee while it charges.
Even if the politicians are pushing the EV, I simply donīt see them being used in a working environment.
Maybe if you think you need a second car to nip down to the shops, or want to feel all warm and fuzzy about the planet, why not.
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Re: Apartment parking charge station for hybrid / electric cars .. who pays?

Isn't this the belleza device? a power bank capable to run your household electricity for hours, portable and charges from sunlight
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...banks-14379556


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Old 30.03.2021, 09:26
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Isn't this the belleza device? a power bank capable to run your household electricity for hours, portable and charges from sunlight
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...banks-14379556


It would run my household electricity for a few minutes, I use over 100 kw/h a day in winter.
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Old 30.03.2021, 09:29
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Re: Apartment parking charge station for hybrid / electric cars .. who pays?

You all make a good case for a hydrogen-driven car.

Efficient fuel, short tank filling times, longer distances.

Of course, costs are higher too.
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Isn't this the belleza device? a power bank capable to run your household electricity for hours, portable and charges from sunlight
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...banks-14379556
A good old diesel generator would be much more practical. It would also give you a moment of fame if you use it to charge your Tesla on a public parking space.
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Old 30.03.2021, 09:36
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Isn't this the belleza device?
What the hell is a "belleza device"?

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Isn't this the belleza device? a power bank capable to run your household electricity for hours, portable and charges from sunlight
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...banks-14379556


I know somebody who has a thing like that, he charges his Phone with it.
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Old 30.03.2021, 09:40
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It would run my household electricity for a few minutes, I use over 100 kw/h a day in winter.
The car batter that I have at the rustico has twice the capacity, and is also solar charged.

It also cost less than 1/3 the price of this (including the inverter and solar interface).

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You all make a good case for a hydrogen-driven car.

Efficient fuel, short tank filling times, longer distances.

Of course, costs are higher too.
And it takes lots of energy to produce hydrogen.

Where does the energy to do that come from?

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The car batter that I have at the rustico has twice the capacity, and is also solar charged.

It also cost less than 1/3 the price of this (including the inverter and solar interface).

Tom

Can you share the details? which charger model etc?
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And it takes lots of energy to produce hydrogen.

Where does the energy to do that come from?

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Old 30.03.2021, 09:53
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Tripped over a cable running across the pavement from a flat to a EV the other day.
There was a recent discussion from management in the company about getting EVīs as company cars for the techies.
Until we pointed out that we drive hundreds of Kmīs and simply donīt have time to plug the thing in and go for a coffee while it charges.
Even if the politicians are pushing the EV, I simply donīt see them being used in a working environment.
Maybe if you think you need a second car to nip down to the shops, or want to feel all warm and fuzzy about the planet, why not.
There are use cases for them, for people on the road all day probably not the best idea. I can see a lot of tradesmen who could use them, they have a drive to whichever site they're on for the day and the vehicle stays there until the evening. Just need the initial outlay to be cheaper.
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Can you share the details? which charger model etc?
It won't help you in any way shape or form.
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Old 30.03.2021, 10:00
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Can you share the details? which charger model etc?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-20-30A-A...MAAOSwpIRgAlaK

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Re: Apartment parking charge station for hybrid / electric cars .. who pays?

How about this one? they (the promo video) claims it can charge a Tesla for 7.5 miles and is also solar powered. To fill the 545e BMW I would need to go back and forth about 6 times ... a nice workout:
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...banks-14379515



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How about this one? they (the promo video) claims it can charge a Tesla for 7.5 miles and is also solar powered:
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...banks-14379515


So, same capacity as my CHF 200 home built unit!

P.S. And the solar panels are not included in the CHF 1661 price!

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So, same capacity as my CHF 200 home built unit!

P.S. And the solar panels are not included in the CHF 1661 price!

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It sounds like you have a good business case right here ...
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You all make a good case for a hydrogen-driven car.

Efficient fuel, short tank filling times, longer distances.

Of course, costs are higher too.
Very difficult to store/transport H2, that's why its use (build up of infrastructure) around here targets 40-ton trucks with their high throughput, and H2 production is close by the respective gas station. The metals needed for the H2 fuel cell catalysators limit its use further, there's simply not enough of them to, say, have all cars be H2-based.

And if you convert H2 to CxHx (even if just for storage) your energy efficiency is bound to drop in the cellar.
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Very difficult to store/transport H2, that's why its use (build up of infrastructure) around here targets 40-ton trucks with their high throughput, and H2 production is close by the respective gas station. The metals needed for the H2 fuel cell catalysators limit its use further, there's simply not enough of them to, say, have all cars be H2-based.

And if you convert H2 to CxHx (even if just for storage) your energy efficiency is bound to drop in the cellar.
BULLSHIT!
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