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Allocation of building charges

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I live in a building with three other apartments and our apartment is the largest in the building. All the associated building costs are split by the apartment square footage so we pay 41% of the overall cost.

In terms of the building heating bill, i think this is fair and resonable, however on my annual statement i am slso being charged 41% of the hallway cleaners cost and 41% of the hallway lighting. Is that normal? I would have expected to pay 25% of this.

If that is how it works then so be it, but it just seemed a little unfair to me.
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Hi Everyone,

I live in a building with three other apartments and our apartment is the largest in the building. All the associated building costs are split by the apartment square footage so we pay 41% of the overall cost.

In terms of the building heating bill, i think this is fair and resonable, however on my annual statement i am slso being charged 41% of the hallway cleaners cost and 41% of the hallway lighting. Is that normal? I would have expected to pay 25% of this.

If that is how it works then so be it, but it just seemed a little unfair to me.
It's usual, imagine living on the ground floor & paying 41% of lift & roof replacement.
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It's usual, imagine living on the ground floor & paying 41% of lift & roof replacement.
Higher floors in ours pay more because of the lift.

All other charges are based on floor space.

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Higher floors in ours pay more because of the lift.

All other charges are based on floor space.

Tom
We don't have a lift in the building

So even though the hallway is equal for everyone, the people with the larger apartments would normally pay more of the cleaning cost?
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We don't have a lift in the building

So even though the hallway is equal for everyone, the people with the larger apartments would normally pay more of the cleaning cost?
Larger apartments likely have more people using them, so more light & dirt in the common parts.

We pay more because we have a garden where the lawn gets mown 6 times a year, useful on a second home in COVID times. We have 4 garages & 2 outside parking places which also get charged a proportion of general running costs.
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We don't have a lift in the building

So even though the hallway is equal for everyone, the people with the larger apartments would normally pay more of the cleaning cost?
I agree, this is completely unfair. The bottom level needs and uses much less of the stairway and should pay significantly less. The higher up the bigger the percentage should be. Where there's only one apartment on a level, this one apartment should shoulder the entire amount for the level, otherwise the percentage should be split. With e.g. three levels (bottom needs no stairs) the top level should pay 2/3 and the middle 1/3, each split among the aparments on that level.

Of course that also affects lighting and cleaning costs. And the charge for the air you breathe.
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I agree, this is completely unfair. The bottom level needs and uses much less of the stairway and should pay significantly less. The higher up the bigger the percentage should be. Where there's only one apartment on a level, this one apartment should shoulder the entire amount for the level, otherwise the percentage should be split. With e.g. three levels (bottom needs no stairs) the top level should pay 2/3 and the middle 1/3, each split among the aparments on that level.

Of course that also affects lighting and cleaning costs. And the charge for the air you breathe.
I don't think it needs to be split based on which floor you are based, i think it should just be equally split.
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I don't think it needs to be split based on which floor you are based, i think it should just be equally split.
On all the properties I have owned in several countries charges were broadly based on size of the apartment as a percentage of overall building size.

My charges ranged from 62/10,000 to 32/100 in a building with 5 flats where mine was the biggest.

Currently in France I pay 18.6% of 10 flats over 2 buildings, we own 2 of the flats joined together on the ground floor. We have 4 bedrooms & 4 bathrooms whoever we are a couple, so definitely would overpay if the amount of common parts lighting or dirt from she's was divided by what we actually use.

You should have been aware of the situation when you bought / rented, it's not something you can re negotiate now.
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On all the properties I have owned in several countries charges were broadly based on size of the apartment as a percentage of overall building size.

My charges ranged from 62/10,000 to 32/100 in a building with 5 flats where mine was the biggest.

Currently in France I pay 18.6% of 10 flats over 2 buildings, we own 2 of the flats joined together on the ground floor. We have 4 bedrooms & 4 bathrooms whoever we are a couple, so definitely would overpay if the amount of common parts lighting or dirt from she's was divided by what we actually use.

You should have been aware of the situation when you bought / rented, it's not something you can re negotiate now.
Hi, We are not looking to re-negotiate, I just wondered if that was the normal way of doing things as we have an apartment in London and while the maintenance cost is based on square footage, the communal areas are split equally.

Thanks for the info
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Re: Allocation of building charges

It's certainly not unusual.
I pay non-usage heating costs based on sqm and hot and cold water too even though it's only me living here. I *think* all other costs are split by number of apartments. Maybe it should be split by number of floors and then by number of apartments on those floors.

Lift costs I can understand you might not want to pay if you live on the ground floor and never use it, otherwise using it to go one floor I would say is the same cost as using it to go three floors.

I don't understand the relevance of a roof replacement fund but if you're an owner I can imagine the cost split might also be based on size of property regardless of if you're on the top floor or the bottom one.
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