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What's the cost of advertising and suplementary charges related to finding a tenant?

Hello, I was searching this forum but I couldn't find any thread touching the point.


What are the costs of advertising and looking for a new tenant, anyone was recently charged that by an agency?


To cut it short, I missed the normal deadline to resign from my apartment at the date wanted (because their office was closed) so I notified the agency that I intent to vacate the property and asked for the applicants from.



I just got the reply which is very strange. In summary they just want to charge me for what they shouldn't I know my rights, I am obliged to present them 3 good applications and they have to let me go. However instead they wrote that I have to give them at least one candidate, but they also reserve the right to advertise and sent their candidates for visiting the apartment. What's more they want to charge me for the advertising and supplementary costs. This one raised my eyebrows, sorry, I can advertise it for free and find 3 candidates easily. Definitely I'm going to give them a call tomorrow.



So the question is how much this "trap" could cost me. Advertising on FlatFox costs 59 CHF. If they are going to charge me that amount, meh, I don't care but I sense some bigger surprise ahead.
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Re: What's the cost of advertising and suplementary charges related to finding a tena

Advertising your home on homegate is free,but i don't know if it widely used in vaud.
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Advertising your home on homegate is free,but i don't know if it widely used in vaud.

same for FlatFox (as an individual), which seems to be very popular recently


that's why I'm so surprised, the reply from the agency just doesn't make sense (economical sense), I said nowhere that I'd like to pay for their extra services to help me

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Re: What's the cost of advertising and suplementary charges related to finding a tena

You need to provide ONE application from a solvable person who is willing and takes over the tenancy.


Solvable means the rent does not exceed 33% of gross salary.
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You need to provide ONE application from a solvable person who is willing and takes over the tenancy.


Solvable means the rent does not exceed 33% of gross salary.
Nowadays "solvent", surely? Solvable in this sense is archaic.
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Nowadays "solvent", surely? Solvable in this sense is archaic.

Solvable is the French way of saying it
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Solvable is the French way of saying it
In french! It’s a false friend in English and doesn’t mean the same thing.
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You need to provide ONE application from a solvable person who is willing and takes over the tenancy.


Solvable means the rent does not exceed 33% of gross salary.

I think so. In fact maybe I don't understand again what's written in the communication from the agency. Clearly I already messed up a little just by misunderstanding what they told me. I don't mind if they prefer to also engage right now in searching for the tenant as long as I'm free from any obligations once I provide them solvable tenant(s). Well, actually I do mind, I prefer to have the people come to my advertisement rather than their Anyway I'm meeting with a lawyer from my insurance to get an advice how to proceed.
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In french! It’s a false friend in English and doesn’t mean the same thing.

Now is that so my dear ?


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Re: What's the cost of advertising and suplementary charges related to finding a tena

While one only has to present only one, three or more are highly suggested as one is not suitable, one is not solvent, and the third is not willing any more once they have to sign the contract.

The agency cannot charge you any fees for looking for an replacement. Specially not if you look for one yourself, but neither otherwise.


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Re: What's the cost of advertising and suplementary charges related to finding a tena

all that true, but I think I'm in an odd situation


I gave the notice believing that it's the right time, but it turned out it's treated as an early cancellation notice. Normally I would just propose a few tenants and that would be the end, but now it seems the agency is already involved or wants to be involved.



Whenever I read somewhere such vague statements like having to pay for "some costs" I always have goose bumps. That's like an invitation to troubles. Who would decide such costs are rationale and valid, etc.



I don't want the agency to be involved yet if it makes me liable for some additional costs. I can easily find tenants, that's all.


I guess everyone goes the proper way, propose the tenants and then tell them when is the takeover date instead of handing a notice first... I wouldn't too if I realized what I was doing
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Re: What's the cost of advertising and suplementary charges related to finding a tena

Unless you explicitly agreed to bear them you're not liable for their advertising costs, that's an ordinary part of them conducting their business and not your problem.

What you are liable for, provided their interpretation of when the contract ends is correct, is usually one or more additional month's rent. But they already demonstrate that they'll have you over a barrel if they can, you'd be foolish to blindly trust their interpretation, even more so without, as appears to be the case, having a clear and unambiguous statement what their interpretation is.

If their office was closed, and you neither knew nor had reason to assume so, IIRC that's usually their problem not yours. What's the timeline, and when did the unsuccessful delivery attempt happen?
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Re: What's the cost of advertising and suplementary charges related to finding a tena

I understood that if a tenant gives notice as per their lease conditions(for example March 31) and does not require a follow on tenant, the agency/owner is responsible for the advertising costs.

However, if the tenant gives notice to March 31, for example, but actually wants to move out sooner, (say February 1st) then the agency/owner may offer to advertise and charge the tenant as the search for a new tenant is outside the notice period and actually in the tenant's interest as they are responsible for the rent until March 31. Of course the tenant can place their own ad where they want.

I posted this before (on a different thread) that Homegate has a special limited free offer if a tenant is looking for someone to take over their lease.
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QED. A false friend indeed.
I think Biro doesn't understand what false friend means. He probably thinks that to bless someone means to harm them. And isolation is a way of keeping warm.
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Unless you explicitly agreed to bear them you're not liable for their advertising costs, that's an ordinary part of them conducting their business and not your problem.

If their office was closed, and you neither knew nor had reason to assume so, IIRC that's usually their problem not yours. What's the timeline, and when did the unsuccessful delivery attempt happen?

I signed a new contract very late 31.08, but then I realized that's the last day to resign normally from my current place so I printed a standard form of resignation, something like "I resign from this apartment effective on 31.11", and went to their office to hand it over the counter. However their office was closed. I have a picture of the note they left on the door. Subsequently I sent an email asking about the situation, if it's possible to hand the termination today due to their fault. They replied confirming that the office was closed and thus now I can sent them early cancellation notice. I totally missed that phrase in French so happily I went to their office and handed the already printed form. Now they act as if it was a cancellation notice without observing the notice period.


Exactly, I've never agreed to bear any of their normal statutory costs. Moreover I didn't mean to send an early cancellation notice.


I asked them by email to give me the form for applicants or a web link to their system if they prefer that way. They replied that those information was already sent by post. Crossing it with the rest of their response, I'm totally confused as well. Opening the link to the form, there's no field where the tenants could write a note that they are sourced by me. I thought that maybe I should keep a list with signatures of who came to visit the apartment from my ad and signed up, but I'm not sure.


Definitely, I didn't explicitly agree to offload the work to them. It's a big misunderstanding or the agency is explicitly playing tricks. I want to send them a few candidates first, then they can do whatever they want but without me paying for that.


Is there a standard form somewhere? I think the law doesn't dictate that the form must be from the agency, it's probably only required all the relevant data is included.
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Now is that so my dear ?


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I’m not your dear and never will be so you can cut that out for starters.

I know what solvable means, IN FRENCH. Nobody was questioning that but you can’t stick a french word in the middle of an English sentence and expect it to have the same meaning.

Solvable exists in English but it doesn’t have the same meaning as it does in French, that’s why it’s a false friend.
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Solvable exists in English but it doesn’t have the same meaning as it does in French, that’s why it’s a false friend.
Meaning is a very subjective thing... Both solvable and soluble etimologically arise from the same latin word, which can be used with both meanings (i.e. repay a debt and dissolve something in a liquid)

https://www.etymonline.com/word/solvable

https://www.etymonline.com/word/solvent

In English you can "dissolve" something in the sense of getting rid of it, which why "solvable" can also carry the meaning of "being able to dissolve a debt" - particularly if your mind works across both English and a Latin language
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Meaning is a very subjective thing... Both solvable and soluble etimologically arise from the same latin word, which can be used with both meanings (i.e. repay a debt and dissolve something in a liquid)

https://www.etymonline.com/word/solvable

https://www.etymonline.com/word/solvent

In English you can "dissolve" something in the sense of getting rid of it, which why "solvable" can also carry the meaning of "being able to dissolve a debt" - particularly if your mind works across both English and a Latin language
That’s all very well but as NAT said it is not really used in that sense nowadays which is why Biro came up with his ‘it’s the french word’ argument.
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I live in the French part, work in French, my clients are mainly French and I speak French so hardly surprising i came up with my reasoning for using the word solvable, Chérie
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I live in the French part, work in French, my clients are mainly French and I speak French so hardly surprising i came up with my reasoning for using the word solvable, Chérie
So do I so that argument doesn’t wash.
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