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Thank you, I'll try that method and see what happens.
I didn't pay enough attention to the thermostatic valve setting. It's a good suggestion that I better note the settings.
So the big question is, did you awake soaked in sweat at 03:00 because you'd turned all the tstats up to full, or did you awake because you were freezing (because I forgot to mention that turning the other two tstats down was just a temporary measure to see if the other rad was working properly or not)?
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Re: Cold apartment!!!

Thanks, it was fine; np at all.
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Thanks, it was fine; np at all.
So is the wonky radiator now evenly warm across it's width?
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So is the wonky radiator now evenly warm across it's width?
No, it does not. I did some more google searches and found one identical problem mentioned by someone. They say the problem could be something related to the valve (e.g. not correctly set, etc). I'll call the hauswartung(?) people I guess.
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Re: Cold apartment!!!

If the cold half is where the usage meter thing is then you might want to leave it ;-)

By the way, while a thermostatic controlled device is normally on/off that isn't always the case with a TRV. Some won't open fully when there's not much temp difference and indeed opening to full will bring the rad up to temp quicker. Doesn't work in my car though when my gf sets the a/c to 17C to make it cooler :-)
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If the cold half is where the usage meter thing is then you might want to leave it ;-)
Good to know this, thank you. That usage meter spot actually divides hot and cold zones.
Is it normal that a radiator doesn't have an air-bleed hole? Is it inside the valve (here, my pre-Copernican mind asks), for there's nothing outside?
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Good to know this, thank you. That usage meter spot actually divides hot and cold zones.
Ummm, what are you calling the usage meter? Your wife?

The device which measures your heating usage is normally in the same place as where the heating pipes connect to the headers.
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Ummm, what are you calling the usage meter? Your wife?

The device which measures your heating usage is normally in the same place as where the heating pipes connect to the headers.
The Heizkostenverteiler are usually in the middle of the rad 1/3 to 1/2 way down.
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Good to know this, thank you. That usage meter spot actually divides hot and cold zones.
Is it normal that a radiator doesn't have an air-bleed hole? Is it inside the valve (here, my pre-Copernican mind asks), for there's nothing outside?
I only say it as a bit of a tongue-in-cheek comment because if the counter is on the cold part you'll be paying less for the heating that you are getting on that radiator.

I've never seen a rad without a bleed valve but I guess there could exist such a valve with it all combined. I have however seen radiators overpainted so much that you coudl easily not detect that there's a bleed valve there. Otherwise the approach could be to split the connectors somewhere at the top but it's not something I'd recommend in a rented apartment.
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The Heizkostenverteiler are usually in the middle of the rad 1/3 to 1/2 way down.
Thanks. I've only ever lived in places with a Wärmezähler.
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Thanks. I've only ever lived in places with a Wärmezähler.
..and I've never seen one before :-)
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I've never seen a rad without a bleed valve but I guess there could exist such a valve with it all combined. I have however seen radiators overpainted so much that you coudl easily not detect that there's a bleed valve there. Otherwise the approach could be to split the connectors somewhere at the top but it's not something I'd recommend in a rented apartment.
Overpainted!!! I used the flashlight (with a little angling) and I saw that small circular trace of the bleed valve. A keen-eyed one could have spotted that in seconds though. You saved me from reading that agonizing Danfoss manuals. Many thanks.
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Re: Cold apartment!!!

This thread has me thoroughly inspecting the radiator in my kitchen. Yet no amount of searching leads to the discovery of the valve for bleeding. Maybe your eyes are keener than mine.
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This thread has me thoroughly inspecting the radiator in my kitchen. Yet no amount of searching leads to the discovery of the valve for bleeding. Maybe your eyes are keener than mine.
It would normally be top right hand corner, that is if your place had horizontal floors. The area where the light switches are.
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Re: Cold apartment!!!

That is what I assumed since that is where ALL our other radiatoer have their valves. But I can't find anything. Oh well, I presume that by bleeding all the other radiators any air caught in this one in particular is released as well. After all, it is one circle, right?
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Re: Cold apartment!!!

Well I don't see anything either by looking at those images. Could it be an overpaint case as well?
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That is what I assumed since that is where ALL our other radiatoer have their valves. But I can't find anything. Oh well, I presume that by bleeding all the other radiators any air caught in this one in particular is released as well. After all, it is one circle, right?
I've seen a few old systems which originally only had plain valves rather than thermostats, only the rads on the top floor had bleeders. More accurately, only the topmost rad on a riser had a bleeder. They were all cast Iron rads though - yours looks more like '60s era.

Another pic of the thermostat area please.
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Re: Cold apartment!!!

Is this an apt or a house?

Can you hear that this rad has air in it?
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