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fandoosai 23.02.2007 00:48

Any restriction on the size of apartment depending on persons residing?
 
I am from a non-EU country and currently working (& residing) in Giubiasco (Ticino cantone) since 18 months. I am getting the dependent visas processed for my wife and my kid(1 year). Once they come down here, I would like to move to another apartment.

Just wanted to know, whether there is any restriction on the size of the apartment to be taken depending on my family size. Will it be okay if I take a 2-1/2 apartment (for 2 adults + 1 kid)? Will this restricition be from the apartment management or could it be from the cantone authorities as well?

A link to an official site (if at all is there) in this regard would be of great help.

Thanks a lot.

muze7 23.02.2007 01:24

Re: Any restriction on the size of apartment depending on persons residing?
 
if 2.5 excluding kitchen, it should be ok. I think it is up to the owner to decide, although they would follow common sense, like 2.5 and 2 kids they would say too cramped I think, or a classic, two people full time in a one bedroom apartment for example. But 3 rather than would be the norm for your family, although that is just my feeling.

Guest 23.02.2007 08:48

Re: Any restriction on the size of apartment depending on persons residing?
 
if you are happy to share your bedroom with the kid, 2.5 means a one bedroom and one main room flat,then why not,as far as i know landlords can not refuse you a small flat with this family size,it'll be another story if you'd have two kids and maybe a pet too.

Often these 2.5 flats are not very spacious:( and the kitchen is not very big and bathrooms often so small that only one person at a time can be in there.. if this all doesn't bother you ,then there is no obstacle in the way :-)
good luck flat hunting

Manolo 23.02.2007 18:33

Re: Any restriction on the size of apartment depending on persons residing?
 
I got a manual for a B-permit without a gainful employment for canton Ticino.

I don't know if it applies for your situation, but it says here for a 3-person domestic community they require at least: three rooms without kitchen and bathroom, 24 sq meters of individual space (bedrooms), 19 sq m. of community space, a 5.5 sq m kitchen, 4 sq m bath and a total of 60 sq m minimum.

They have also worksheets to figure out if your income, assets, health insurance and other things are adequate or not.

The forms are in Italian at http://www.ti.ch/ricerca/ then enter "soggiorno grandezza delle abitazione" without the quotes.

I think the easiest thing to do is to ask the authorities, it's a simple, straightforward question.

mark 23.02.2007 23:35

Re: Any restriction on the size of apartment depending on persons residing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fandoosai
Just wanted to know, whether there is any restriction on the size of the apartment to be taken depending on my family size. Will it be okay if I take a 2-1/2 apartment (for 2 adults + 1 kid)? Will this restricition be from the apartment management or could it be from the cantone authorities as well?

Well 2.5 rooms probably means the parents will be in the only bedroom and the kid will be sleeping in the lounge. Depends what the rental contract states. Mine is a 3.0 and says only 1 person allowed on the lease, but I have 2 - nobody ever made a big deal out of it.

BUT My guess is that the landlord COULD refuse this if he deems it unacceptable, since this is something that he can choose to specify in the contract.

Children sleeping in the lounge room isn't as uncommon as we might think - I've seen it before in Zurich...

Personally I don't think this is a matter for the authorities, it's more a question for the landlord. I'd mention it after they accept you though... Going for a 3.0 would be better if you can manage it.

Manolo 24.02.2007 03:12

Sorry Mark, but the authorities are involved per the new Foreign Nationals Act. Art.44.b.

Federal Department of Justice and Police / Federal Office for Migration FOM
Important changes in the new Federal Act on Foreign Nationals (AuG) dated 16.12.20051.
on the popular vote of 24 September 2006 (revised legislation on asylum and foreign nationals).
(...)
Article 44 Foreign Nationals Act
Spouses and children of persons with a residence permit
Foreign spouses and non-married children under 18 years of the person holding a residence permit can be granted a residence permit if:
a. they live with the permit holder;
b. they have adequate accommodation;
c. and are not dependent on social welfare assistance.

Source: http://www.bfm.admin.ch


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