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Towns and villages around Zug

I was hoping someone could shed some light on how "international" the towns and villages in the neighbouring cantons to Zug really are?

I'm expecting to move to Zug for work in the near future and as I have a family (including dog) need somewhere with some space and a garden. Such places don't appear to exist (within a sensible price range) in Zug but we can see that within a 10-15km radius of Zug there are places that may be ok. However, we don't want to feel too isolated (although we do want to "integrate" with proper locals as well as foreigners).

I'm aware that there can be tax disadvantages to living outside of Zug, but am more interested in the cultural aspects.

Any thoughts appreciated.
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Hi, You might want to have a look at places like Meierskappel (Canton Lucerne), Küssnacht am Rigi, Immensee (Canton Schwyz) Hausen am Albis, Eberstwil, Uerzlikon (Canton Zürich) - all these little towns are within reasonable reach and have quite a few expats living there. Good luck!
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Hi I just wanted to add the fact that Canton Schwyz has an better tax rate and a lower cost of housing making it one of the most affordable places close to Zug.
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Hi I just wanted to add the fact that Canton Schwyz has an better tax rate and a lower cost of housing making it one of the most affordable places close to Zug.
It may be cheap, but it's still Canton Schwyz: Switzerland's very own Congo. The horror! The horror!
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

@Dougal's breakfast : haha canton Schwyz indeed -- personally wouldn't want to live there even with a 0% tax rate. Interesting too that people who live there always first come up with the low tax rate as prime reason to live there. In my view it's dull, slightly overaged population and above average fraction of narrow-minded Swiss (think SVP voters). As a tourist it's beautiful to visit that region, to live there nevertheless would be a different story.

In Zug ... you might want to have a look at Zug4You website to read a bit about Zug/expats/international environment etc. Indeed Zug is expensive; for buying you will quickly see that the market in Zug starts round about 1 million Swiss Francs. Renting in Zug starts at around 3'000 a month.
Here's a map where you can see quickly the villages round Zug.
Direction Luzern/Vierwaldstättersee are mostly small villages -- some quite nice, however lacking atmosphere or conviviality imo.
Unterägeri&Oberägeri are little villages where millionaires live.
Baar or Cham might be good starting points. Good luck!
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I was hoping someone could shed some light on how "international" the towns and villages in the neighbouring cantons to Zug really are?

I'm expecting to move to Zug for work in the near future and as I have a family (including dog) need somewhere with some space and a garden. Such places don't appear to exist (within a sensible price range) in Zug but we can see that within a 10-15km radius of Zug there are places that may be ok. However, we don't want to feel too isolated (although we do want to "integrate" with proper locals as well as foreigners).

I'm aware that there can be tax disadvantages to living outside of Zug, but am more interested in the cultural aspects.

Any thoughts appreciated.
Zug as a place to live is over-rated and over-priced, we looked at Zug tried it and moved. You can get more accomodation for your money outside the Kanton, and that will more than offset the highger taxes. There are plenty of dog friendly places around, but if you want a house expect to pay a lot, and be prepared to look long and hard.

We moved here from central Zug, plenty of space, better rental rates and choice of property, and Mama G can get to work in Zug quicker than a colleague who live in Baar.
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

Would you lot stop sniping at Kanton Schwyz! The question was how international are different towns and villages around Zug, do you mean international, as in various nationalities being resident or do you mean the expat community?
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I'm aware that there can be tax disadvantages to living outside of Zug
If by Zug you mean the town (ok, "city") of Zug, then that's not quite right. You will be paying tax at source and the tax rate is fixed at cantonal level, so you'll pay the same regardless which town of canton Zug you live in.
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

I would suggest Cham or Sins. Cham is very close to Zug (and indeed still in the county of Zug). It is a small town and has great facilities. Another very good option would be Sins - it is in county Aargau but is only a 15-20 minute journey into the centre of Zug (train or car) and the centre of Luzern. It is a fast growing large village and there is a lot of affordable housing. The infrastructure is improving very rapidly and although it is not particularly influenced by the English speaking community there are so many young families living there that I am sure it would be an easy place to integrate.
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

I just arrived in Zug yesterday after a looong drive in my 1996 Wrangler, which was fun, and will move into my apartment on the border of Baar/Zug on Monday. My two dogs should arrive on Tue but who knows when the furniture will arrive??
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

Someone already said Cham but Baar is closer. I live on the border (ie end of my road) to Zug. 15ins walk to the center of town or take the train if needed.
Still finding my feet but its all good.
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Someone already said Cham but Baar is closer. I live on the border (ie end of my road) to Zug. 15ins walk to the center of town or take the train if needed.
Still finding my feet but its all good.
We live in Inwil bei Baar about 200 meters from the Zug city limits.

Hopefully you will like it here!
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

Quiet Cham is a great place to bring up children and if you have a dog. Lots of meadows around for walks, a beautiful park and a playground by the lake, a pretty river with herons and myriads of waterfowl, a decent library and several grocery stores and bakeries. There are three 'beaches' between Zug and Cham at one of which you can bring your dog for swimming and a run around with other friendly dogs.

Rental in Cham is around CHF3,000, depending on area, size of apartment/house (the usual). We saw a biggish apartment in Zug town for only CHF2,200 but it was right next to the railway tracks with a train chugging past every 5 minutes or so. Cham has lots of expats though, if that's what you're interested in.

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15 minutes by bus into Zug town, 12 minutes by train.

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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

From personal experience, I've lived in Oberageri- was nice to have more sun in the winter months, lake 500 meters from the apartment, but the down side was the 20 minute drive to Zug & not enough shops (always had to go to Unterageri for most items).

I lived in Hunenberg (aka Chicken Hill) and again small sleepy community with nothing going on.

Cham is where we are now with 2 kids and it's fantastic. More shopping possiblities, lake & train station are 7 minute walk and lots of fields (although the one across the street from us will be 130 apartments by 2012 ) One is also quick to get on the autobahn to go to LU or ZH. Havent found any bad points so far after 3 yrs here.
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

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My partner starts his job on Monday and will start to look for properties. We have a 16 year old and a 5 year old. We have been looking around on t'internet and think we might like the look of Walchwil. Has anyone been there please?
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My partner starts his job on Monday and will start to look for properties. We have a 16 year old and a 5 year old. We have been looking around on t'internet and think we might like the look of Walchwil. Has anyone been there please?
Downsides are that most places are on a big hill and public transport is every 30 mins by train, or from the bus if you are near the bottom of the hill. Nowhere to walk but up or down a hill. My colleague lives there and always drives into Zug.
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

Hi The town is a quiet and charming place with many groups and activities (helps greatly if you understand German). It is a wonderful place to keep in shape (yes you will climb up and down a bit)with the next schedule change in December we should have train service on the half hour and its a 13 minute ride to Zug. Many flats have beautiful views of Rigi and the lake and when we do not have the Switzerland thermal inversion (FOG FOG FOG) beautiful sunsets.

You can PM me if you have more questions I have lived here for 14 Months.

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Downsides are that most places are on a big hill and public transport is every 30 mins by train, or from the bus if you are near the bottom of the hill. Nowhere to walk but up or down a hill. My colleague lives there and always drives into Zug.
Also downside is no Coop or Migros- you'll have to head to Zug for major food shopping (unless you order online then that problem is solved )
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Re: Towns and villages around Zug

The Missus and I live in Inwil bei Baar. We can walk to either the Zug
or the Baar train station relatively quickly. The bus goes about every 15
minutes or so when you don't want to walk.

It is a nice area with lots of families. There is a small mountain just behind our house and a very large field not too far away. We really
enjoy living here.
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The Missus and I live in Inwil bei Baar. We can walk to either the Zug
or the Baar train station relatively quickly. The bus goes about every 15
minutes or so when you don't want to walk.

It is a nice area with lots of families. There is a small mountain just behind our house and a very large field not too far away. We really
enjoy living here.
Right near me then. Am just off Zugerstrasse near McDonalds
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