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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

Thanks for the help so far!
However, I'm now filling in the 18.44, but some of the boxes are worringly blank as I don't have the information or I don't quite get what they want me to enter.
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I haven't got a residence permit yet, just the papers they give to get one when you register, so do I put in anything for that section, f'rinstance the number on the papers?
At the end (marked 'application for duty-free clearance'), I don't have a reference number. Also, I guess 'date and place' is where I am now, not the border crossing?
Scary stuff - I'm off early in the morning, so dear Mrs Boris will have to field this one...
If anyone can help, we'd really appreciate it!
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Re: Moving furniture and etc...to Switzerland

hi just found your message - we are moving to Lugano in spetmebr from the Uk - we are emplying pickfords removals - ant tips on avoiding any taxes etc or indeed any tips on relocation issues very much appreciated thanks caroline
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Re: Moving furniture and etc...to Switzerland

Hello,

I have found this website during a research on importing goods to Switzerland from abroad.
He is my situation and my problem and hopefully somebody will be able to give me some help.
My girlfriend applied for a student visa to Switzerland and it was refused. She is now here for 3 months on a tourist visa but her belongings (10 m3) are on a boat to Rotterdam. As she doesn't have the right to live (only to leave) is there a way to get those goods to us or me.

thanks for your help
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I haven't got a residence permit yet, just the papers they give to get one when you register, so do I put in anything for that section, f'rinstance the number on the papers?
I had my stuff shipped in by a firm based in Geneva, so YMMV.

Here's a copy 'n' paste from an e-mail from the firm:

"Please also note that a temporary clearance has been made on your behalf and that the missing documents (residence permit and residence lease or purchase contract) have to be provided to the customs authorities within 30 days.

Should you fail providing the required documents, the customs authorities will charge you the customs duties and taxes based on the estimated value of your belongings. (CHF 3'800) [I don't know if the 3800 is the bill or the estimated value. I suspect the former, but hope for the latter.]

A temporary clearance fee will be invoiced to you upon receipt of the customs receipt, after the final clearance of your shipment."

I don't know why I will still get a temporary bill, given they will have all my docs in time. Perhaps the "temporary" bit means I have time to challenge it if necessary. For example, all my stuff must be older than 6 months since it has been in storage in the UK for more than 7 months.
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Hello,

I have found this website during a research on importing goods to Switzerland from abroad.
He is my situation and my problem and hopefully somebody will be able to give me some help.
My girlfriend applied for a student visa to Switzerland and it was refused. She is now here for 3 months on a tourist visa but her belongings (10 m3) are on a boat to Rotterdam. As she doesn't have the right to live (only to leave) is there a way to get those goods to us or me.

thanks for your help
Yes you need to get the forwarding agent to change the destination name to yours and not your girlfriends. I assume you are here with a permit...
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Yes you need to get the forwarding agent to change the destination name to yours and not your girlfriends. I assume you are here with a permit...
Thanks for your help.
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

Just to add our own experience having moved from Switzerland to the UK, then 7 years later made the move in reverse. Both times were with rented vans. This is tough work and a long and slow drive. It is best with at least one if not two strong friends to help load/unload.

We inquired at both the UK and Swiss customs authorities first and as a result had a clipboard and a pile of self-adhesive stickers. Ever item that was loaded had a numbered sticker slapped on it and this number and a short description of the item was written on the clip board.

On leaving Switzerland through Basel St Louis, the French customers stop asked what we had on board. When we said we were on the way to the UK (in a UK registered van) they waved us through. At Southampton we went through the red channel and showed the clip board list. We were waved through with a cheery smile without opening the back of the van.

Seven years later with more than double the amount of stuff we made the journey the other way using the same system - again a UK rented van. We were behind schedule and at that time the Swiss border customs went home at 7pm. With hindsight we could have simply driven through, but were determined to show our clipboard to someone. The 'duty officer' took CHF200 off us and put a lead seal on the lock.

The next day we had to go to the 'Duty Free Warehouse' in Zurich with the van to get our CHF200 back, get our clipboard stamped and the lead seal removed. They did not even open the van doors and we paid nothing.

Frankly, the customs are not interested in domestic removals...
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

thanks for this good experience.

Unfortunately she is moving form Australia and therefore the van was out of the question. as i can't read the road signs in most of the countries we would have travelled through.

The goods are coming with a removal compagny (or more) and i think the customs might check the accompagnying papers a bit more than their road side colleague. i will call the customs today to check with them.

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thanks for this good experience.

Unfortunately she is moving form Australia and therefore the van was out of the question. as i can't read the road signs in most of the countries we would have travelled through.

The goods are coming with a removal compagny (or more) and i think the customs might check the accompagnying papers a bit more than their road side colleague. i will call the customs today to check with them.

bests

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Let me half back up Adfabs statement and half allay your fears. If removal goods are entering Switzerland they are not interested. I recently had a large truck deliver domestic removal possessions and I also had some things to declare(not much maybe CHF 50 in duty). The transport company said don't worry we have not been searched in the last 8 years!


However do note the following. While they are completely uninterested in removal via road they are positively interested in anything via air and anything that comes in a standard freight lorry. So make sure your goods are coming in a removal van!
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

For Tubbiesmummy (I hope I got that right!)

We have also used Pickfords to transport our stuff and they were great at the UK end. The general advice was it's easier to get them to pack for you (although you obvioyusly pay for the pleasure) and they put a numbered sticker on each box and add a short description to a list. We said we would pack the books ourselves but even then they ended up repacking most of those boxes. Just don't pack any items of food or alcohol.

Can't comment on getting the goods this end as it's hopefully happening in the next month - we have finally found an apartment - yippee!
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

Hi huney thanks for that - gosh yes - trying to find somehwere to live is a nightmare!!!! even worse it becuase we have some cats!!!
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

Well, thanks for tha advice, everyone. as it turns out, even though we had a nice itemised list of all belonging, one of all new items and one of the contents of each box, the customs chaps weren't bothered in the slightest and waved our stuff along. It was, however, a right b***er getting 710 kilos of junk up to the fourth floor by way of the stairs...
I think that when we leave, I'll just set fire to it all and claim it back on the insurance and buy it all again when we arrive wherever we're going.
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

Hi Tony,

When you completed the 18.44, what did you put for "date and place", where you were before or the location you were importing to? I'm finding the form more than a little confusing!

Cheers

Terry

p.s. Also our commercial removal agent have told us we need to provide a "commercial invoice" to show what we are taking, but they don't have a template or form that we can fill out. They told me today that a document that just states "Office equipment relocation" and then the locations would be enough, does anybody know if this is actually correct?? Or is there an 18.44 equivalent that I need to complete for the office equipment as well?
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

Just wanted to add this link - has information you can download on how to import car and clear customs

http://www.ezv.admin.ch/dienstleistu...x.html?lang=en

colonel boris, the link you have for the 18.44 site seems to no longer contain the 18.44 form (only gives info that you need this!)...am searching for this form and finding everything but...could someone point me in the right direction?
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

Actually the page CB linked to does have a link to the 18.44 form .. but only on the German version. If you click to change the page into English, the 18.44 link disappears. Handy!

With a bit of luck, this link brings the form up directly.

If not, if you google "18.44" there's a link on the top page that comes up (in German ... but just click things until you get it. The form itself is in English as well as German).
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Re: [Importing] Personal belongings, household goods

That's the correct form.

Somethings that may require mentioning from my experience:
  • You must import everything before 12 months from your original entry has passed, or you are liable for duty/VAT on it.
  • Basically, although the rule is 6 months, anything that is reasonable for household goods seems not to concern customs. Basically, if there is an item or two that is younger than 6 months, it probably will not be an issue, but don't look like you are taking advantage, and they will probably be fine. Having a new laptop for your old one that blew up might be ok, but I would not turn up with a brand new 50" LCD HD TV still in its original packing material.
  • Trucks/removal vans are extremely limited as to what times they may cross the border (don't even THINK of driving through outside these times). There are large truck parking areas outside all Swiss crossing points to cater for this.
  • ENSURE a moving company properly registers things during the crossing, especially vehicles/motorbikes. If you are importing your car, BE SURE it is properly handled at the border, or you WILL NOT be able to register it.
  • A very fine way to ship small quantities of goods is as "un-accompanied luggage" on aircraft (as long as it contains no "dangerous goods"). You then have to clear customs yourself when you come to collect it at the other end. Note: this is different to EXCESS baggage, which is extremely expensive. Excess baggage can cost €20 per Kg, whereas unaccompanied can be found for less than €4 per Kg for Sydney - London!!
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That's the correct form.

Somethings that may require mentioning from my experience:
  • You must import everything before 12 months from your original entry has passed, or you are liable for duty/VAT on it.
  • Basically, although the rule is 6 months, anything that is reasonable for household goods seems not to concern customs. Basically, if there is an item or two that is younger than 6 months, it probably will not be an issue, but don't look like you are taking advantage, and they will probably be fine. Having a new laptop for your old one that blew up might be ok, but I would not turn up with a brand new 50" LCD HD TV still in its original packing material.
  • Trucks/removal vans are extremely limited as to what times they may cross the border (don't even THINK of driving through outside these times). There are large truck parking areas outside all Swiss crossing points to cater for this.
  • ENSURE a moving company properly registers things during the crossing, especially vehicles/motorbikes. If you are importing your car, BE SURE it is properly handled at the border, or you WILL NOT be able to register it.
  • A very fine way to ship small quantities of goods is as "un-accompanied luggage" on aircraft (as long as it contains no "dangerous goods"). You then have to clear customs yourself when you come to collect it at the other end. Note: this is different to EXCESS baggage, which is extremely expensive. Excess baggage can cost €20 per Kg, whereas unaccompanied can be found for less than €4 per Kg for Sydney - London!!
From my personal experience, if you choose a reputable removal company that regular moves to Switzerland and the documents are filled out correctly the chance of an inspection of goods is around 1 in 1000. 1 company I know that moves 5 to 10 per week said they have not been inspected EU->CH in the last 5 years...
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Moving from Italy to CH -which forms to fill x custom?

Hello Everyone
here am i again asking for your wisdom (which so far helped me a lot). I'm planning to move all my furnitures next year from Italy to a flat i found in Switzerland. The moving will be done by driving a van, so that means i'll have to go through the custom between Italy and CH; so my question is: which forms do i need to fill in and how much should i pay as a custom tax in order to get the van with the furnitures coming to CH?
thanks a lot
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Moving from Italy to CH -which forms to fill for custom?

Hello Everyone
here am i again asking for your wisdom (which so far helped me a lot). I'm planning to move all my furnitures next year from Italy to a flat i found in Switzerland. The moving will be done by driving a van, so that means i'll have to go through the custom between Italy and CH; so my question is: which forms do i need to fill in and how much should i pay as a custom tax in order to get the van with the furnitures coming to CH?
thanks a lot
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