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Old 14.05.2009, 12:23
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High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

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We have been looking to buy a house in Lausanne and its environs for almost a year now. We have seen a lot of places but haven't found the place yet.

One thing we have noticed is the string of high-voltage power lines that snake across Vaud and actually sit within quite a few of the local neighbourhoods. We have looked at houses in Epalinges, Le Mont and Belmont and have noticed the lines quite close to houses.

Yesterday, we saw a house we really liked but it had a tower sitting right on its fence line. Not one of the gigantic type but a tall skinny tower. The agent said the current owner (who also has children) had it checked out for safety by an expert and was given the all clear. My own research is showing that independant and govt researchers haven't found a definitive link with health issues (specifically childhood leukemia) but that it was also impossible to entirely rule it out at this stage.

I just wanted to get a bit of feedback from forum members on this issue. Specifically, if anyone knows how the Swiss feel about the ubiquitous power lines and if they have an impact on resale of a house. We have personally walked away from a couple of properties we were interested in because of the power lines nearby but we are beginning to think it may be one of those things that is impossible to avoid in the areas where we are looking.

Appreciate any feedback or input you may have.
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

Hi Mel,

I've had a similar problem - either high tension cables, motorways or even mobile phone masts. I even saw one new build house which was situated right next to a massive pylon, with the estate agents excusing this as the house was 200K less than usual ! I guess everything has its price, but health is not something I wanted to compromise on and accordingly one of my first questions usually concerns high tension cables.
The areas you mention are particularly infested with cables, have you considered looking at other nearby areas which are not so badly effected or even at different parts of the areas you mention - I think as long as you're a reasonable distance away from the pylon and cable then there shoudl not be a problem as the electromagnetic field reduces very quickly.

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The areas you mention are particularly infested with cables, have you considered looking at other nearby areas which are not so badly effected or even at different parts of the areas you mention - I think as long as you're a reasonable distance away from the pylon and cable then there shoudl not be a problem as the electromagnetic field reduces very quickly.

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Hi Patrious,

Thanks for the response. Yes, we are looking at all areas but there are so few houses that actually come onto the market. We are averaging (on a good week) one house to view a week. We might find something that meets 70-80% of our criteria maybe once every few months. It's hard work.

We have encountered all the things you mentioned too. Another one is an apartment tower block looming right over the backyard. We've seen a few of those too. At least that is not dangerous to your health though.
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

Hi Mel,

I know what you mean ... I have been looking for some time as well. There seem to be no shortage of houses in general, and yet finding one that you would actually want to live in and is not priced at +25% over the market rate is difficult. But I have seen quite a few more coming on to the market recently though, so hopefully this might be a good sign. Personally I would prefer to stay renting if I can't find what I want, given the high prices here. But having said, I am getting very fed up with my landlady's choice of Orange wallpaper

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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

I would avoid living near a high tension power line. Avoid mainline railway tracks, too, because the overhead traction cable is high voltage.
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... My own research is showing that independant and govt researchers haven't found a definitive link with health issues (specifically childhood leukemia) but that it was also impossible to entirely rule it out at this stage. ...
It's impossible to entirely rule out any theory, that is the way science works - a theory is much easier to prove than disprove. However, if multiple attempts to prove the theory have failed, then you can generally give up on it. It's equally hard to entirely rule out the hypothesis that ghosts exist.

It sounds like someone could get a nice place to live for a bargain price if they are simply not superstitious and base their opinions on evidence rather than fear.
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I would avoid living near a high tension power line. Avoid mainline railway tracks, too, because the overhead traction cable is high voltage.
So would I , but only for the reason that they are an eyesore, and there can be an annoying buzzing sound in humid weather.

There's no health danger from the electric or magnetic fields.
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

If you are hesitating, that is reason enough the keep looking for the house of your dreams. The housing market here is not very liquid anyway and judging by the very non-scientific survey here, quite a few people will wonder whether power lines nearby are a health hazard.

One thing is for sure. Even if you live to be a 100 and then try to sell the house, the question of whether or not power lines cause a health problem will not have been solved. Some scientists will still claim it is a problem and others deny it - the experiment to prove one way or the other can never be undertaken.

Keep looking; you'll find the dream house.
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If you are hesitating, that is reason enough the keep looking for the house of your dreams. The housing market here is not very liquid anyway and judging by the very non-scientific survey here, quite a few people will wonder whether power lines nearby are a health hazard.

One thing is for sure. Even if you live to be a 100 and then try to sell the house, the question of whether or not power lines cause a health problem will not have been solved. Some scientists will still claim it is a problem and others deny it - the experiment to prove one way or the other can never be undertaken.

Keep looking; you'll find the dream house.
This is what I was afraid of. I know that in many countries the power lines would seriously limit your re-sale possibilities and had assumed the same for here. But we have seen quite a few houses now near the high-voltage power lines (they really are everywhere) and some of those houses have sold quickly. I was wondering if it is perceived the same way here in Switzerland.

No use asking one of the real estate agents because I know what response I'd get.

The house we saw yesterday was great...it was just that annoying tower that has raised the big question mark, firstly from the health angle (which I know is unproven) but also from a "perception" angle.
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

When it comes to high tension cables and electomagnetic fields emitted by them, I should rather expect more impact on other electronic/electric appliances in the household itself than any life threatening hazards resulting thereof (which probably could be more tangible to observe with cell-phone reception and others) . There is still lot of research ongoing on impact of HV cables on living organisms from biological prospective but no sound proof as yet has been provided. Having said that it is still not certain that any such negative impact does not exist, so it cannot be ruled out completely.

On the other hand, from practical point of view imagine that Switzerland is a small country and presence of such inconviniences like power station, water sluices or dams, railways running nearby, church-bells, airports cow dang or fertilizer (even that) and etc.. just to name a few, are inevitable. If you really get a good price for the place I would make such an investment. You can always take a walk to neraby forest, park or go to the mountains to get a fresh air "lung-injection" and forget about technology infested neighbourhood.
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HWe are averaging (on a good week) one house to view a week. We might find something that meets 70-80% of our criteria maybe once every few months. It's hard work.
Hi

I can't help with your power line question but can add that we looked for over 2 years to find our house. Just as we decided to throw in the towel and the very next day found the house we wanted - SO HANG IN THERE, it does work out in the end ;-)

Good luck
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

I'd avoid being around 200 meters close to High voltage lines, as I don't wanna be a subject proving if it's hazardous or not!
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

I don't care if they are dangerous or not, those things are ugly. I wouldn't want to look at them from my home.

In one area of Zug they have built right under them, but the land around them remains farmland One is right between 2 apartment blocks and has been painted green and covered in vines to try and hide it

Hang in there on finding a suitable place to buy. We looked for 2 years and ended up compromising on many things and spent more than we wanted to.
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When it comes to high tension cables and electomagnetic fields emitted by them, I should rather expect more impact on other electronic/electric appliances in the household itself than any life threatening hazards resulting thereof (which probably could be more tangible to observe with cell-phone reception and others) . There is still lot of research ongoing on impact of HV cables on living organisms from biological prospective but no sound proof as yet has been provided. Having said that it is still not certain that any such negative impact does not exist, so it cannot be ruled out completely.
I once worked in an office adjacent to a major train line. Every time a train went by, the image on the PC screen would flicker! Each train type had its own flicker signature. Annoying and fascinating.
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I once worked in an office adjacent to a major train line. Every time a train went by, the image on the PC screen would flicker! Each train type had its own flicker signature. Annoying and fascinating.
And some people make research out of it kindly subsidized by taxpayers money. I heard about extreme case of students working on shining cats pee study
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

It takes time to register research and have the waver to make the results public, plus fighting the business lobbyists and other anti-eco peeps, I just know since both of my parents have been long in the environmental health risk assessment it is not safe to live near the electromagnetic fields (be it a big screen TV near your bed or a power lines, etc..). I would never buy any property near it.
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The house we saw yesterday was great...it was just that annoying tower that has raised the big question mark
I'd say if this thing is going to annoy you or leave nagging doubts in your mind every time you look out of your window, then you probably have your answer, whatever anybody else says.
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

Thanks everyone for your advice, insight and encouragement. It is very much appreciated and a good reality check for us.

I suppose this is going to be a case of right house, wrong location.

Hopefully we'll soon find the right house, right location and most important of all.....right price.
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My own research is showing that independant and govt researchers haven't found a definitive link with health issues (specifically childhood leukemia) but that it was also impossible to entirely rule it out at this stage.
Note that electricity has only been around for a bit over 100 years.

So the long term effects on the human race of using electricity are still unknown....
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Re: High-Voltage Power Lines in Vaud and Buying a House

All health issues aside, when buying a house I have always used this simple mantra: "can I resell it?"

I have bought 7 houses and resold 6 without problem over the years - 2 of them in Switzerland - using this simple formula.

If these power lines are an issues for you now, they will also be when you come to resell. If in doubt. Don't buy...
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