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AmyWarren 01.06.2009 18:14

Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
My husband and I are relocating to Zurich for a three-year appointment at ETH starting mid-July. We are looking for a short-term furnished place to use as a base for a few months while we search for permanent housing.

Does anyone have experience, good or bad, with UMS or Swiss Star?

UMS: http://www.ums.ch/index.php

Swiss Star: http://www.apartments-swiss-star.ch/...mid=43&lang=EN

Any other advise or leads for short-term housing would also be appreciated. Thanks!

englishtim 01.06.2009 19:17

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AmyWarren (Post 467032)
My husband and I are relocating to Zurich for a three-year appointment at ETH starting mid-July. We are looking for a short-term furnished place to use as a base for a few months while we search for permanent housing.

Does anyone have experience, good or bad, with UMS or Swiss Star?

UMS: http://www.ums.ch/index.php

Swiss Star: http://www.apartments-swiss-star.ch/...mid=43&lang=EN

Any other advise or leads for short-term housing would also be appreciated. Thanks!

I stayed in the Swiss Star apartment hotel in Friesstrasse 8, Oerlikon when I first came to Switzerland. As an organisation, they were fine to deal with. The room was generally ok too: I had a furnished room with a small kitchen and bathroom. The room was a bit overheated for my liking though, but the real problem was the location - I could watch the trains going in and out of Oerlikon station day and night, which I could live with, but if I opened the window to cool down the noise was unbearable.

The immediate area around the hotel is a bit desolate too, although Oerlikon centre is just the other side of the railway, with a reasonably good shopping area.

Serk 01.05.2016 14:50

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
I just didn't wanna start a new thread. We're getting really frustrated finding an apartment in Basel. We've seen some UMS furnished apartment ads in immoscout. Two questions:
1) would anyone recommend this company? Any experience, suggestion?
2) are we going to go through the same torturous process (eg, priority to Swiss nationals, "the market is tight"/ "too many applicants" conversations, no result replies, etc).
We hold legitimacy card (type D), non-EU married couple, no kids, have a decent salary..

Silvestre 02.05.2016 00:24

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
Used UMS, found them really good and would recommend them. Rented a flat in Winterthur for a month through them. No issues what so ever.

Not the cheapest but not the most expensive either.

Serk 02.05.2016 11:05

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvestre (Post 2582320)
Used UMS, found them really good and would recommend them. Rented a flat in Winterthur for a month through them. No issues what so ever.

Not the cheapest but not the most expensive either.

Thanks Silvestre for your feedback. We're currently staying in a furnished apartment and it's really expensive and small. I'll call UMS to check whether it's possible to rent one of their flats for a long term (2-3 years). We're at the edge of giving up seeking an apartment for rent through a regular process, a process both time consuming and frustrating.

ablalarom 09.05.2016 17:29

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
I stayed at Swiss Apartments in winterthurerstrasse, the cheapest one/studio (1800CHF/mo). I don't recommend it at all because:

- After being there for a while I saw it was a rip off for what it was: One room with bed, small table, small wardrobe and kitchenette. Old bathroom.
- Internet never worked and I made clear that I needed an apt. with decent internet connection for work. They gave me a swisscom USB which was a pain and I ended up working at Starbucks.
- The noise from the trams was unbearable. I was always woken up at 5AM by their noise.

I would avoid them at least in this location...

Rosso 24.06.2016 15:33

UMS - temporary apartments
 
Hi all,

Has anyone rent a temporary flat via ums.ch site? Prices looks good, but I guess they will charge you for insurance additionally. I don't want to create account just to check it, so maybe someone has already such experience there?

Thanks in advance.

Silvestre 24.06.2016 16:18

Re: UMS - temporary apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosso (Post 2612328)
Hi all,

Has anyone rent a temporary flat via ums.ch site? Prices looks good, but I guess they will charge you for insurance additionally. I don't want to create account just to check it, so maybe someone has already such experience there?

Thanks in advance.

I have used them, I found them to be pretty good. I didn't get any insurance through them (or privately for that matter :msnblush:)

Eepus 25.06.2016 13:03

Re: UMS - temporary apartments
 
I used them to rent my apartment temporarily once and found them to be very professional and in typical Swiss German way very exact. As a landlord it was fabulous but understood some people found their fees steep.

You should take a look at airBnB though as many flats for Zug are also available there for temporary lets. If you need any advise you can send me a PM :)

Rosso 27.06.2016 14:09

Re: UMS - temporary apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvestre (Post 2612380)
I have used them, I found them to be pretty good. I didn't get any insurance through them (or privately for that matter :msnblush:)

Really? On the site, they say that guarantee to landlords that their potential tenants would be insured :confused:

Thanks

Rosso 27.06.2016 14:10

Re: UMS - temporary apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eepus (Post 2612781)
I used them to rent my apartment temporarily once and found them to be very professional and in typical Swiss German way very exact. As a landlord it was fabulous but understood some people found their fees steep.

You should take a look at airBnB though as many flats for Zug are also available there for temporary lets. If you need any advise you can send me a PM :)

Thanks. Prices at airBnB are not so good here, in Switzerland. That's why I am looking for other platforms like UMS...

Mrs. Doolittle 27.06.2016 14:19

Re: UMS - temporary apartments
 
There is already a thread about UMS. Maybe this might be helpful.

http://www.englishforum.ch/housing-g...ar-zurich.html

I found it simply by using the search bar and typing in UMS :msncrazy:

3Wishes 27.06.2016 18:53

Re: UMS - temporary apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Doolittle (Post 2614141)
There is already a thread about UMS. Maybe this might be helpful.

http://www.englishforum.ch/housing-g...ar-zurich.html

I found it simply by using the search bar and typing in UMS :msncrazy:

Thanks, Mrs. D. Threads now merged. :)

Rosso 29.06.2016 17:01

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
As far as I understood, tenant should pay 500 chf in additional to rent price. Anything else?

Silvestre 29.06.2016 17:30

Re: UMS - temporary apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosso (Post 2614124)
Really? On the site, they say that guarantee to landlords that their potential tenants would be insured :confused:

Thanks

Not sure how it all works but there wasn't a separate insurance fee / cost tome as a tenant or a requirement to get insurance.

I am guessing what it means is that UMS will take out insurance / insure you against any damage by the tenant so you are not left out of pocket. This cost may then have been embedded in the hefty commission that the tenants pay to UMS (I think I paid a 30% commission if I remember correctly).

This explains it better: http://www.ums.ch/ums-system/services-prices/

Uncle Max 29.06.2016 18:10

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
Going against the grain here but you may find private landlords more flexible and cheaper. I'm slightly antsy about all the ApartHotels and Furnished places springing up in my neighbourhood; really nice businesses are being shut down and buildings whitewashed to cater for transient visitors willing to pay through the nose for not very much. From what I see rates are about 25% above the market, which has a knock on effect for everyone. Not blaming the visitors, but there's little genuine gentrification and plenty of sterility. See what's happened in Seefeld, where locals are priced out of what was recently a cheapo area and now it's full of foreigners looking for a nice place to live... the beast feeds itself. Happening all over, though.

Have a look
a) here on EF for temporary accomodation
b) RonOrp's newsletter

Serk 29.06.2016 19:49

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
I guess the system is flawed, it's inefficient and to an extent, irrational; and this is exactly why people are literally forced to rent furnished apartments like UMS. In our case, just because real agents don't have a clue about our permit type as well as their hopeless slowness, we were pushed to rent a temporary apartment. (The argument that the market is irrational and inefficient to a certain degree can well be discussed at length).

Acakoning 30.06.2016 01:44

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
If you rent a "business apartment" which is intended for short stay, for a longer period (2 to 3 years definitely qualifies as long) you can negotiate big discounts on their adverted prices, like 25% even. As they dont have to deal with new tenants and weeks of empty apartments.

Dandy 30.06.2016 15:27

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
Have you checked


visionapartments ?


They have apartments at Gerechtigkeitsgasse in Zürich which is a rather nice area.

Rosso 01.07.2016 17:43

Re: Any experiences with UMS and/or Swiss Star? (Zurich)
 
Thanks Dandy, that is an interesting site and the company is growing as I see at this link: http://visionapartments.com/en-US/Co...s-Figures.aspx

Do you know, if tenant should pay anything else above rent price and taxes (3.6%)?


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