Yes, because you don't actually "overtake" a contract but get a new one after the previous tenant's is cancelled.

I have also received the email from MV (I am a member) regarding their service of checking whether I am entitled to rent reduction.

However, since I have only been in this apartment for a short period of time (15 months) and I am on very good terms with the people from the Verwaltung (it is a small family business), I am wondering: Would they (Verwaltung/owner) view my rent reduction request as "hostile"? I don't want them to dislike me, and they have been very friendly!

Also, does the rent reduction also apply for the parking spots? We are paying 240 CHF/ mo in total (1 spot in the basement garage and 1 spot outside) and we have separate contracts for these parking spots.

TIA

Hello,

a coworker mentioned that the "mietzins" was lowered. Is that correct?

Do I have any right to get a lower rent for my appartement now?

In my contract it IS mentioned but its said:

"Mietzinsvorbehalt - Kein Anpassung an die ort-und quartierübichen Mietzinse +10%"

What does it actually mean? Is that even legal? Ive heard different.

Please help.

Thanks in advance

Hi Shibby, I've merged your question into the big thread about interest rate reduction and rent reduction. Sorry, I don't know about the language in your contract.

Yes.

No. You may *request* a reduction, and the owner / administration must respond.

The phrase "Kein Anpassung an die ort-und quartierübichen Mietzinse" indicates that when you signed the contract, the owner claimed that he offered you a discount on the rent that would be customary for the location.

From context it appears as if the 10% would refer to the fact that he claims that customarily for this specific location rents would be 10% higher.

Yes. (And you accepted the clause when you signed, so it is binding, too).

When you now request the reduction in rent, you could get a response coming back with "interest adjusted downwards, base rent increased cf Mietzinsvorbehalt, Nebenkosten adapted due to cost of living yadda yadda" - gross win for you zero or negative. Once mortgage interest rates go up again, the contract will then (also) be adjusted upwards to follow suit.

Bonus question: Why is that questions about a (rental) contract always come up *after* said contract has been signed?

So, I have heard this story before but never asked the landlord to reduce my rent. Until now, when someone told me that I could probably get a large reduction in my rent.

Thing is, I checked the contract (from Oktober 2009, when the Refernzzinssatz was 3%) and there's no mention of the interest rate. The only mentioned rate is the Hypothekarzinssatz (2%) which AFAIU has nothing to do with the Refernzzinssatz.

What do you think? Will the landlord give me the discount?

Thanks,
G

Actually, it seems that Refernzzinssatz and Hypothekarzinssatz really are the same thing. But why then should the landlord have given me a 2% rate instead of the 3% which was set in 2009, when I signed the contract?

The full text in my contract is:

Berechnungsgrundlagen: Hypothekarzinssatz 2% Landesindex der Kosumentenpreise Mai93=100 Kostenstand 1992

Dear all,
We are in the process of applying for a rent reduction based on the reference interest rate change (in Vaud) and I was wondering whether someone can steer me in the right direction please:
It says to apply for the reduction based on the 'net' monthly rent. So is it the total net amount or the amount minus the charges for hot water etc? Also, since we are renting through a real estate agency, I'm assuming we send the registered letter to them, not the owner of the property? Finally, the IPC rate I saw on the Bon a Savoir site is materially different to the one in our lease - does anyone have any explanation for this, or better still, what the actual rate is? I just want to have my ducks in a row before sending the letter!
Many thanks!

You don't give them any rent figures; just ask the landlord/agency/whatever to reduce the rent in accordance with the reduction in the interest rate.

I think I'm about to do the same; Mieterverband points out it's a legal entitlement, but does anyone have any thoughts about whether it's likely to mark you out as a "problem" tenant? Our landlords live in the top flat in the building, and we get on with them well, but they use an agency to run the lettings

Maybe just ask them rather than the agency?

I received a letter 2 weeks ago from the agency that the rent will be lowered.

For all who want to try...make certain you meet the post deadline at the end of this week.

For many (based on the 2010 rate of 2.25%) a full 0.5% drop will net quite an annual savings.

Direct link:
https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/poli...infordern.html

Anybody has a clue?

I think I'll write the letter specifying that the rate was 3% at the time we signed the contract and hope for the best

I have obviously missed why there is an end of week deadline?

Admittedly...We got the much appreciated info from my wife's coworker who is local born. She conveyed the urgency citing that there is some sort of reasonable limit for requesting a change. Beyond that I've no idea other than to share that a swiss person told us to get the request in by this week.

To ensure your request is received by the end of the month - Tuesday is the last day of June. The rent can be reduced in this way only on the contractual notice/termination (kündigung) days. Otherwise you will possibly wait three more months, depending on what your rental contract states.

FYI in case anyone receives a negative (or no) response to their request, or questions the calculation, the Mieterverband will examine your case and advise for free, even for non-members living in Kanton Zürich:
https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv-zh/n...vermieter.html

I believe it has to do with getting your request in before the end of a month, just like you would have to do for a notice that you're leaving. The change in rent is not immediate but comes into effect with a new contract. Often that new contract starts 3 months from the notice. Or something like that...we haven't written our letter yet.

Ok I will get ours sent today

It depends when your contract expires - it needs to be sent three months before that date (just before the three month notice period). For example, my contract started 1 August, so I had to send my letter by the end of April.

I just asked for a reduction a couple of months ago and they then put the rent up to account for it being 2 years since I moved in, and in the end I got a 33chf reduction. Not sure if its worth sending another letter for a further 5-10chf... though Im guessing they cant once again put the rent up so soon?