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Bi-fold doors

Hi, I am about to renovate a room that opens onto our terrace and I would like to replace the current window/door arrangement with bi-fold doors. However, I can find no-one here (in Bern) that knows what products are availible in Switzerland. It seems they are still only used on commercial properties here, whereas in the UK they have been very popular on residential properties for sometime.

This is the kind of thing I am talking about, http://www.lanaidoors.com/

So does anybody know of a good window company that could install bi-fold doors in Bern (cheaply of course ) ?

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Re: Bi-fold doors

That shouldn't be too hard to find.

Let me suggest a day trip to St. Gallen between the 8th and 18th of
October. In the OLMA Halle is the 2009 OLMA going on during these
dates. One of the halls has numerous door and window suppliers
& companies that would jump with joy when you come along with
a contract I know I have seen these bi-fold doors there in the past.

The other halls have interior furnishings, exterior furnishings, household
appliances and numerous other goodies to check out. Don't forget about
the wine and beer hall!

I am going on the 13th to order more wine.

Edit: Forgot to mention that most companies displaying at the OLMA
offer an OLMA-discount. This can prove to be worth the trip!
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Re: Bi-fold doors

Hi Scott,

Thanks for the suggestion.

"That shouldn't be too hard to find."

You'd think eh

As far as travelling to St.Gallen, my experience with renovating my appartment over the last 2/3 years has taught me to keep this kind of thing local if possible. You would be amazed at the misunderstandings that can occur (even with an architect organizing it) when renovating, the best way to sort these out is to quickly meet up with the suppliers which can be difficult if they are 300km away. (I am talking from experience here).

I will keep it in mind and maybe see what is on show at the BEA, (e.g. this http://www.hausbaumesse.ch/de/messe is on in a few weeks).

cheers,

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Re: Bi-fold doors

I have these doors and 2 windows like this and I am not a fan. The weight of the wooden frame on the track means that after a few years I had to use a block to prop up the sagging bit under the hinge. Our roof winter garden has similar doors in aluminum for walls, with smaller, lighter window panes. These have never gone wrong. I must admit I haven't used them fully open except when moving because in summer all the bugs would get inside.

They also take up a lot of space when open - remember Swiss doors open inwards. This could be why they aren't popular here. Another reason for them not being popular here is the Swiss roller shutters. Anything wider than 4m is very heavy and it was recommended that I split the large roller blind I have into two shutters because it keeps breaking.

Baumgarter Fenster in Zug installed mine:
http://www.baumgartnerfenster.ch/faltschieber.html

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Re: Bi-fold doors

There is also a hausmesse on in Luzern next weekend. Don't have a link, but I am sure it will show up on Google.

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Re: Bi-fold doors

I understand your point, keep it local. However, there are companies
from all over CH, Southern DE and Eastern A at the OLMA. It just
might be worth the trip.

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Hi Scott,

Thanks for the suggestion.

"That shouldn't be too hard to find."

You'd think eh

As far as travelling to St.Gallen, my experience with renovating my appartment over the last 2/3 years has taught me to keep this kind of thing local if possible. You would be amazed at the misunderstandings that can occur (even with an architect organizing it) when renovating, the best way to sort these out is to quickly meet up with the suppliers which can be difficult if they are 300km away. (I am talking from experience here).

I will keep it in mind and maybe see what is on show at the BEA, (e.g. this http://www.hausbaumesse.ch/de/messe is on in a few weeks).

cheers,

Andrew
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Re: Bi-fold doors

Hi Marie,

Thanks for the information, it is very helpful. I do not plan to used wooden doors, and I believe the aluminium ones will be ok for me, the gap is circa 4m wide. But I will try to confirm that this span is not too large for the type of door I am fitting.

We do not suffer too badly from bugs as we are on the 5th floor, my terrace is actually on the 6th and not too heavily planted. But is it a good point and I will discuss it with my wife.

Do doors have to open inwards in CH or is that just the 'normal' way of doing it. It is not such an issue for me as there are 2 steps up to these doors so the space they fold into is not useful for anything else (I hope this makes sense, without a diagram it is hard to explain).

"Anything wider than 4m is very heavy and it was recommended that I split the large roller blind I have into two shutters because it keeps breaking"

We have large span windows elsewhere in our apparment and use blinds (storen) instead of shutters (rollblinden) for just this reason, they are much lighter and work just fine (so far). I infact wanted shutters but was talked out of it by the guy fitting them, I am happy to hear that his concerns were justified (I was unable to verify this at the time).

"Baumgarter Fenster in Zug"

Would you recomend them?

Once again thanks for your reply (BTW: how do "thank" a poster on these boards, there does not seem to be a button for it)

--andrew
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