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Hi there,

I'm moving out to Basel probably as early as December now, and I would like to ask your opinion on what area would suit the following criterion:

* Close to Novartis
- Doesn't have to be walking-distance-close, but maybe a couple of stops
on the bus/train.

* Close to any bus/train stops, as above.

* Fairly central enough to be able to walk into "town", or maybe a few stops away by bus/train.

It's probably not a well thought plan, but this is generally what i'm after.

I'd live further out to keep costs down, but anywhere commutable would be great

thanks

dsw.
Hi dsw,
Are you in Basel yet? Have you found your ideal location yet? I also plan to move to Basel and look for something within easy commute of Novartis. Will appreciate some tips...
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Hi there,

I'm moving out to Basel probably as early as December now, and I would like to ask your opinion on what area would suit the following criterion:

* Close to Novartis
- Doesn't have to be walking-distance-close, but maybe a couple of stops
on the bus/train.
Which Novartis you want to live near? We have Novartis here at several locations
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Re: Ideal location in Basel?

reviving the thread......
I live in Allschwil.
Taking the tram from the Dorfplatz to Campus can easily take 40 minutes if you get the timing wrong. 20 minutes by bike max.
A large area of Allschwil is blighted by plane noise. When the planes climb out, it is very noisy.
Make sure you visit and spend some time listening to the planes.
Otherwise, it is a nice place to live.
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Re: Ideal location in Basel?

Hi,
Welcome to Basel!

I live along Spalenring which tram 1 goes to Novartis. From my place to Novartis is about 4 stops I think. To walk to the Rhein is 15min walk. To Baffuserplatz is 5min tram after 5min walk (tram 3). Like everyone said, Basel is small and easy to get around.

I have a room that I would like to rent out to a female non smoker. See post by Melani '1 room to rent in Basel'.

Wish you all the best
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Re: Ideal location in Basel?

Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

This particular topic does the rounds from time to time - so if you use the forum search you'll get some useful stuff. I'll try to post links if and when I can be fagged.

Also have a look at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaselExpat and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaselLounge and http://www.baselexpats.com for tips.

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[Basel] The area to the north of the river

A few days earlier when I asked about apartment with thick walls on EF, there were a lot of useful suggestions by EFers, one of which was to find newly constructed buildings to rent. I thought this was pretty good suggestion, so I looked up on homegate and saw that generally the new houses can be found in the (postal code) 4057-58 area, which is above the river and near the Basel Bad station. Before I came to Basel, one friend who lived in Basel told me that the Basel Bad station area "isn't very good", however "is not generally dangerous". I haven't lived in this area, so I'd like to ask people here, what do you think of this region, and is it generally fine if e.g. return home late from work or go out at night?
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

We live near claraplatz and love the area but probably wouldn't go too further away - more to do with amenities more than safety - and the look/feel of the area. We walked to Germany and as you go along the river there is more of an industrial feel with the apartments looking like they were just put up to house as many people as possible. Where we are there are new and old mixed in so it is a bit more interesting architecturally. Also I LOVE being so close to the shops (major chains and specialty - like asian markets), bakeries, gyms, etc... plus its only 10 minutes over the bridge into the town centre and just a short walk to parks, cycle paths in the other direction. We don't have kids so can't give advice on schools - if you need them - but we go out at night - walk everywhere and have always felt safe. When we first moved here the relocation agent mentioned a 'red light' district but other then one 'adult shop' I haven't seen anything. We are still in our original one-bed furnished flat but when we are ready to move on we want to be within a few blocks of where we are now.
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

It's a shame this attitude exists. Unless someone can show some concrete crime figures by postal code I don't think there's much credibility to the idea that Kleinbasel is particularly 'dangerous'. It's true, there seems to be slightly more people there who aren't pasty faced and miserable looking... so maybe that accounts for the mini-xenophobia.
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

I work opposite Basel Bad Bf and the area is fine.

Many Swiss don't like it as there are Turkish people living here and some shops are open after 6pm. Not only that, but the area is full of cheap grocers and some half decent kebab takeaways.

It is, however, extremely dull architecturally.
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

Actually what I like is that I hear a lot of italian being spoken. I don't know any german (yet) but do know some italian so its nice to be able to understand some of what is going around me. And yes, after 6 pm we can shop at an asian store and a 'crazy gown shop'. You never know when you might need a ball gown..............
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We live near claraplatz and love the area but probably wouldn't go too further away - more to do with amenities more than safety - and the look/feel of the area. We walked to Germany and as you go along the river there is more of an industrial feel with the apartments looking like they were just put up to house as many people as possible. Where we are there are new and old mixed in so it is a bit more interesting architecturally. Also I LOVE being so close to the shops (major chains and specialty - like asian markets), bakeries, gyms, etc... plus its only 10 minutes over the bridge into the town centre and just a short walk to parks, cycle paths in the other direction. We don't have kids so can't give advice on schools - if you need them - but we go out at night - walk everywhere and have always felt safe. When we first moved here the relocation agent mentioned a 'red light' district but other then one 'adult shop' I haven't seen anything. We are still in our original one-bed furnished flat but when we are ready to move on we want to be within a few blocks of where we are now.
Thanks for your advice. I haven't been to that area at all as it's kinda far from where I live now. It's nice get a general view of the place. Maybe I should just go have a look by myself one day. And I would be glad to live close to like asian market and shops as well. I remember my friend mentioned the "red light district" to me, but it seems from your description not to be a big issue, that's great.
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It's a shame this attitude exists. Unless someone can show some concrete crime figures by postal code I don't think there's much credibility to the idea that Kleinbasel is particularly 'dangerous'. It's true, there seems to be slightly more people there who aren't pasty faced and miserable looking... so maybe that accounts for the mini-xenophobia.
You have a valid point here. But I guess it's also understandable that there is a general impression that in big cities sometimes there are certain areas that people normally would not want to visit at night for example. So when I consider living at a place for long term and also having children, and when a friend especially gives such an advice, I would normally take into consideration. Well, mentioning it by postal code was because I didn't know how this area is called (and I was searching on the internet, so end up seeing it by postal code). But I think what my friend meant was rather the "red light district" thing than anything else.

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I work opposite Basel Bad Bf and the area is fine.

Many Swiss don't like it as there are Turkish people living here and some shops are open after 6pm. Not only that, but the area is full of cheap grocers and some half decent kebab takeaways.

It is, however, extremely dull architecturally.
Thanks for your advice. Actually in the area that I currently live (behind the main station), there are also many Turkish people but I didn't see it as a problem. They are just normal people like anybody else. Shops opening after 6pm would be a good thing for me as I'm pretty much a night person.
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Actually what I like is that I hear a lot of italian being spoken. I don't know any german (yet) but do know some italian so its nice to be able to understand some of what is going around me. And yes, after 6 pm we can shop at an asian store and a 'crazy gown shop'. You never know when you might need a ball gown..............
Where exactly is the asian market? I'd like to visit even if I'm not moving yet. Thanks!
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

http://www.newasiamarket.ch/

It's actually just a shop but it sells most stuff and the prices are usually a bit better than the one by SBB.
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

I like living in Kleinbasel, in a new building with thick walls. I have a child, and there are many families with children around here, and a real diversity of people (immigrants, "temporary" foreigners, and Swiss families).

It is completely fine to walk around at night, not dangerous. No, it's not the most fascinating area of Basel, but I've now been here for a year and it's completely fine. We might reconsider when our toddler gets closer to school age; for now we're happy here.
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

For six months now, I have been walking home every evening through the area you mention, and being a researcher this is sometimes at 9pm or 10pm. Not once have I felt threatened or seen anything that would bother me. Once someone approached me, apparently trying to sell (or buy??) drugs, but immediately as he noticed that I was not interested, he bent over backwards to apologize me and practically ran away.

If you ever lived in a real city, I don't think that you will find this allegedly dodgy district very impressive. However, if you grew up in a religious community, for example, you might feel slightly uncomfortable.

Having said that, almost any other district in Basel is more picturesque than this one. On the other hand, the other districts are also more expensive.
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

I've previously lived in both Kleinhüningen & Hammerstrasse (Clara) and I felt no less safe than my native home small market town at night. My in-laws live in the very heart of the so-called "little Istanbul" and they have very nice flat and have no issues, aside the small parking issue. In fact leaving thier flat after midnight post a late night poker session is no more "threatening" than a walk past Pickwicks/Paddys/countless-other-town-centre-bars at the same time of night.

I've heard expats at the Basel curry nights "complain" that it ghetto full of foreigners with their satellite dishes and have heard it is unsafe, so would never even visit or go there, despite them living in Reinach (*) without an ounce of irony .

Go have a look at flats there, if you find a nice one and you like it, apply for it, if you are unsure visit the area again on a Friday night to set your mind at rest - if you need or want a guide, just PM.

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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

I live in 4058. I have always felt safe and have never noticed anything to make me feel uncomfortable. I don't understand why people say it's not safe. I can only think that they haven't actually been here. It is so close to Germany, the Stücki shopping centre, the shops around Claraplatz and it takes no time at all to get to the other side of the river. It's also close to Lange Erlen and you can be out in the countryside in a short walk. The transport links are also very good.

I find there is a good mix of people here, young, old, families and a mix of nationalities so you do hear lots of languages being spoken but I like it that way. And from what I remember when looking at apartments, it is so much better value here probably because many people foolishly believe what they hear and rule out living here.
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Re: [Basel] The area to the north of the river

It's all relative, as my uncle Einstein said. A few years ago there was one of those best and worse place to live in Switzerland surveys done by... someone... Pratteln and Kleinbasel were very close to the bottom. But still an earthly paradise to, e.g. Brentwood, Essex.

What's sure is that the people of Kleinbasel tend to be less well off. And that leads, generally, has a negative effect on the schools. Lower expectations, less motivated staff etc. Of course it shouldn't be that way, so if you have kids, and are a high earner, by all means go to Kleinbasel and start improving things.
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