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Old 27.03.2011, 21:58
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I have a product that uses compressed air. It has a nozzle akin to a plunger. You put it on the pulg hole and press. It shoots compressed air into the hole and clears it.

I purchased it from QVC UK and they will deliver it here. I can order it for you if needed.

I couldn't find that item but there is this:

http://www.qvcuk.com/ukqic/qvcapp.aspx/view.2/app.detail/params.item.562993/walk.yah.UKGD~U085
A great product as well. You can buy it at Coop Brico. For the average user, I find the can of compressed air a bit easier to handle.
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Old 28.03.2011, 13:30
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I picked up some chemical drain cleaner last week and have tried it (x3 even) and the drain seems to clear, everything goes down quite rapidly but as soon as I run water for a bit, it slows back down again to extremely slow. (Takes hours for half a sink of water to drain.)
Have you recently had this problem, or was it always there? Does the owner know if you have a poorly designed drain system?

A long drain pipe brings higher resistance and water will always drain slowly after the pipe has filled up innitialy. There might also be a partial blockage further down the pipe, which is where the spiral drain tool is useful. After trying that you might need a plumber!

Plumbers also need to consider allowing the air to escape from the sewer as the water pours in. There should be a ventilation shaft from the sewer to the roof, though if this is blocked (In Avenches by a birds nest) it also results in smells from the sewers entering the bathroom. (Yuk!!)

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Old 28.03.2011, 13:59
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Have you recently had this problem, or was it always there? Does the owner know if you have a poorly designed drain system?

A long drain pipe brings higher resistance and water will always drain slowly after the pipe has filled up innitialy. There might also be a partial blockage further down the pipe, which is where the spiral drain tool is useful. After trying that you might need a plumber!

Plumbers also need to consider allowing the air to escape from the sewer as the water pours in. There should be a ventilation shaft from the sewer to the roof, though if this is blocked (In Avenches by a birds nest) it also results in smells from the sewers entering the bathroom. (Yuk!!)

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Old 28.03.2011, 17:09
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Have you recently had this problem, or was it always there? Does the owner know if you have a poorly designed drain system?

A long drain pipe brings higher resistance and water will always drain slowly after the pipe has filled up innitialy. There might also be a partial blockage further down the pipe, which is where the spiral drain tool is useful. After trying that you might need a plumber!

Plumbers also need to consider allowing the air to escape from the sewer as the water pours in. There should be a ventilation shaft from the sewer to the roof, though if this is blocked (In Avenches by a birds nest) it also results in smells from the sewers entering the bathroom. (Yuk!!)

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I had a problem with it last year, late winter / early spring (if I remember right) and the determination was that I'd not been careful enough with what went down the drain either from sink or dishwasher. So, it is certainly a recurring problem but hasn't been a constant problem, no.

So, since it was said to be my fault, I changed the way I was doing things, scraping practically clean before putting in sink / dishwasher and I now (have since then) use a special drain block thing to help keep any "large" particles getting down in the drain.

I happen to believe that we have crappy plumbing, the drain and pipes are all much more narrow than what I'm accustomed to seeing and examining the works under the sink last night, there is a good meter or more of extra hose from dishwasher to the sink pipe snaking about against the wall.

Looking again under the sink, about 3cm from the drain hole for the sink is the first turn for the pipes and it makes a very sharp L (so the drain snake I purchased today has proved useless as it doesn't bend that sharply), which takes things horizontal. Next comes another sharp L going down, about midway down this is where the Y is for the dishwasher hose to feed into. AFTER all of this, there is something more along the line of the usual curvy bit of pipe before everything disappears into the wall.


So, home again with a fancy plunging thing, an old fashioned sink plunger, a drain snake and a new particle cover for my drain... so far nothing has worked. (It's becoming impossible to resist the urge to complain about the dirty looks when I suggest dish-free meals too )

Tomorrow I'll head to the Apoteke to follow up on some other suggestions. Thanks bunches to everyone for their suggestions! ♥
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Old 28.03.2011, 18:14
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

Take your pick
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Old 28.03.2011, 18:20
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Some more adwise !Trow the furballs down the toilet
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Old 30.03.2011, 10:24
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As others have said. Step one is to remove the grill on the top of the drain and use a flashlight to see if there is lots of hair in there. Remove it with some tweezers.

Next is to go to a larger Coop store (or Coop Brico) and go to the section where they have the drain and other cleaning products. You will find a can of compressed air with a red plastic top. Buy it (about CHF 10).

To use the product, you unblock the lid (twist it) and invert the can over the drain opening. Get a good seal. Push down on the can. A shot of compressed air will clear out the junk that is down there. You have enough for two or three shots. Try to do it in one long/good shot.

Nice and clean process without any chemicals to worry about. Works like a charm.

Note: if You have a bath tub rather than a shower stall, you will need to block the "over flow" opening (near the tap) so the air does not escape there. Same issue if you have a blocked sink. Use a wet towel to block the other opening.
I was in a Coop yesterday and decided to get some photos of the Sipuro Jet can. They are below. Price is CHF 9.90
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Old 30.03.2011, 10:31
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

If its a retal property tell the landloard they will fix it..we did and we did not get charged.
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Old 17.11.2011, 09:42
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

An interesting video ( DE ) showing which method is efficient:

http://www.kassensturz.sf.tv/Nachric...as-Rohr-sauber
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Old 17.11.2011, 09:48
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

Shave your head: problem solved
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Old 17.11.2011, 10:18
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I know this thread is old but as the info is still useful (unfortunately) AND I am now experiencing a second problem with my drain, I am curious - what would one call a "drain snake" or as Phil calls is, "flexi-snake" here in Switzerland?

I picked up some chemical drain cleaner last week and have tried it (x3 even) and the drain seems to clear, everything goes down quite rapidly but as soon as I run water for a bit, it slows back down again to extremely slow. (Takes hours for half a sink of water to drain.)

So, prior to calling in a plumber who will joke with my husband about how he needs to "train" his housewife better (), I want to make another attempt myself.

Meanwhile, since I'd had such a problem with it before, I had picked up a drain-guard so there was nothing bigger than a caraway seed getting down into the drain this time around, I'm really confused (and angry!) that there is yet another problem with my kitchen.


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http://www.flexisnake.com/

just order it through ebay.
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

Compressed Air did not work for me. Instead, general chemicals from Migro (POT) does the job, I believe it is bleach based.
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

My kitchen sink is clogged (nothing visible though, it just takes forever to drain) - until now I've dumped cold water in the drain (that didn't help), dumped four packets of baking soda (200g) plus a cup of strong vinegar in (it helped slightly) and finally I poured a liter of boiled water down the drain. It's about 50% better now. What to do to unclog without taking the sink apart? There's a x shaped metal inside the drain, so it would have to be a liquid solution. I'd like to avoid buying drano equivalents...

Thanks for your advice!
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

In the absence of a flexisnake/drain-snake you could undo a wire coat hanger and try to gently feed it down the drain. If you really are against chemical help perhaps use more really hot water and let it sit a bit.
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

I use the following - sourced in Italy....don't know if it is available here:

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In the absence of a flexisnake/drain-snake you could undo a wire coat hanger and try to gently feed it down the drain. If you really are against chemical help perhaps use more really hot water and let it sit a bit.
I'm not opposed to using chemicals per se, I'd just like to try some more householdy stuff before paying for a bottle of chemicals. The hanger wouldn't go in more than 2 inches because of the x shaped metal in the drain. I don't see anything sticking to the sides of the drain either so I wouldn't know what to get out with the hanger?

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I use the following - sourced in Italy....don't know if it is available here:

Going on a Google hunt - but I don't think I'll find this anywhere in CH. Thanks for the idea!
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I use the following - sourced in Italy....don't know if it is available here:

glowjupiter says they want to avoid chemicals if possible, but equivilent de-blocking liquids are avaliable in the household sections of most supermarkets here if necessary.

@glowjupiter, repeat the baking soda and boiling water treatment.
If you do need to call in a plumber for heavens' sake remember to tell them what you have put down there in case there's any residue!
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glowjupiter says they want to avoid chemicals if possible, but equivilent de-blocking liquids are avaliable in the household sections of most supermarkets here if necessary.

@glowjupiter, repeat the baking soda and boiling water treatment.
If you do need to call in a plumber for heavens' sake remember to tell them what you have put down there in case there's any residue!
Hi Anjela, I'll definitely buy the chemicals before calling a plumber. Thanks for your advice!
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

you can also go old fashioned with a plunger.

is the right type for a blocked sink. A wet cloth should be applied over the overflow to create a seal - to get more power into your plunging, get someone to help and cover that.

A plumber would try that first and will afterwards most probably use compressed air in a similar manner.

Once you have a flow through the pipes, run large amounts of very hot water through it - add some washing liquid to remove grease.
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you can also go old fashioned with a plunger.

is the right type for a blocked sink. A wet cloth should be applied over the overflow to create a seal - to get more power into your plunging, get someone to help and cover that.

A plumber would try that first and will afterwards most probably use compressed air in a similar manner.

Once you have a flow through the pipes, run large amounts of very hot water through it - add some washing liquid to remove grease.
What's this plunger called in German? I have never seen it before...
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