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You can get really powerful declogger the drogerie. It is classified as chemical so some places make you leave your details and sign for it.

You dump it in, followed by 1 lt of hot water and out come some pretty toxic fumes (so leave room asap and window open)

Always done the trick for us, unfortunately cannot remember name but it is a blue container, about 20 cm.

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Is it this one?
http://www.vepo.ch/rohrvit/rohrvit-b...enpackung.html
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

Yes had another name in mind but looks exactly like it!
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Yes had another name in mind but looks exactly like it!
Going on the hunt tomorrow - a bottle of vinegar plus some more baking soda fizzed away for twenty minutes, but to no avail. Dammit
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

In Zurich you find it at those Apotheke/Drogeries, for example the one in Brunau. It has to be the bottle tipe, not the c"inder type.

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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

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My kitchen sink is clogged (nothing visible though, it just takes forever to drain) - until now I've dumped cold water in the drain (that didn't help), dumped four packets of baking soda (200g) plus a cup of strong vinegar in (it helped slightly) and finally I poured a liter of boiled water down the drain. It's about 50% better now. What to do to unclog without taking the sink apart? There's a x shaped metal inside the drain, so it would have to be a liquid solution. I'd like to avoid buying drano equivalents...

Thanks for your advice!
My landlord swears by this stuff, I had never heard of it before, it's made in the Netherlands I believe and he uses it as a preventative for all our apartments in this block. It's very quick, not smelly at all and seems to be very effective, much better than having to get Rohrmax or whatever they are called in, as that can cost thousands.
Here is the link for it on Amazon.de http://www.amazon.de/Faren-Fl%C3%BCs...A1VJHLNP82TYCY
One friendly tip, well two really, be aware of what is going down the drain and make sure to use the sieve or filter in it, plus, before washing greasy pots and pans, give them a good wipe out with some kitchen paper towells or if you use them, the paper serviettes from the table first, that goes a long way to preventing stoppages.
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

This must be blockage week. Got up this morning to find that our dishwasher is now blocked up. The OH has tried blasting it with our pump thing and also put some powder unblocker down it followed by hot water about half an hour later, but that doesn't seem to have done much. Did run another wash cycle through it after putting the powder down it and the thing hasn't overflowed so presumably the water's going somewhere. Any ideas?
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

well the dishwasher is connected into the sink drainage system - is there a non-return valve between the outflow on the dishwasher and the drainage?

how is your sink draining?
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

All the sinks are draining perfectly and the washing machine is too. It just seems to be the dishwasher. We've tried some liquid unblocker down it, but it's just sitting in the drainage area. Even forced a bit down through the hole, but it's made no difference. We're wondering if it might be a pump problem, but even then I'd expect the liquid to drain out eventually.
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

I will add my two centimes worth to the discussion.

With bath tubs and showers (especially with women and longer hair), you need to physically get the glob of hair and soap out of the drain every month or so. Then the water will normally drain properly again.

I use a wire hanger. Looking at the hanger you cut it in the right hand "corner". In the left hand corner go up the hanger towards the hook about 1 cm. Then cut there. That gives you a long piece of wire to get down the drain and a hook to bring up the "stuff". It works like a charm for fishing down the drain.

Secondly, I use (especially in the kitchen) a type of hose (sold at Aldi - next on special 5.06.2014 - not yet on their website) that you connect to the tap/shower hose and put as far down the drain as possible to flush further down/into the pipe than you can if you are trying to use a plunger system.
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This must be blockage week. Got up this morning to find that our dishwasher is now blocked up. The OH has tried blasting it with our pump thing and also put some powder unblocker down it followed by hot water about half an hour later, but that doesn't seem to have done much. Did run another wash cycle through it after putting the powder down it and the thing hasn't overflowed so presumably the water's going somewhere. Any ideas?
Argh, I commiserate. I don't know how to deal with the problem though since mine's not dishwasher related.

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All the sinks are draining perfectly and the washing machine is too. It just seems to be the dishwasher. We've tried some liquid unblocker down it, but it's just sitting in the drainage area. Even forced a bit down through the hole, but it's made no difference. We're wondering if it might be a pump problem, but even then I'd expect the liquid to drain out eventually.
I used the abovementioned rohrvit (from company vepo, got it in the pharmacy). I got the pink bottle (liquid) and let it sit in the drain for 12 hours. Followed by a huge pot of boiling water. The drain is clean as a whistle and drains way better than before, but still not as well as it should
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Old 27.05.2014, 21:24
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

Maybe give it another dose then glowjupiter.

Maybe your solution washed through the sewer system to me because my problem seems to have cleared itself. After ignoring the dishwasher for a couple of days I scooped/sucked out the water that was still lying in the bottom and then switched it on. Ran through its cycle and guess what - no water in the bottom! Ran another light wash cycle just to be sure, but the same result. I'll load it up with dishes this evening and hope that it all works properly and I have clean dishes ready for tomorrow morning.
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

Regarding dishwashers; we had to call a plumber to ours in the UK as it refused to run or drain properly, and when he pulled it out I saw to my absolute horror that the pipe leading away from it was chockablock with grim food residue and slime . To my astonishment, the young plumber then used mouth suction to start to clear it!!!! When he left, dishwasher now in full working order, I feverishly pressed a substantial tip into his hand and asked him how we could possibly prevent such a revolting thing happening again. He advised a dishwasher cleaner, something that I thought was just advertising fluff. We use one of these things every 6-8 weeks - ok, when I remember - and so far, so good.

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Old 27.05.2014, 22:02
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

Yes, I clean mine every month, though I must admit I've totally gotten out of the habit of doing the same with the sinks. I used to be put deblocker down the sinks monthly too, but fell out of the habit some years ago.
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Sooo... I did it! Finally the sink unclogged.
After buying a plunger and finding out that it wouldn't help my situation at that moment, I unscrewed the siphon under the kitchen sink (gloves and a strong stomach recommended) Luckily, I had put a bucket under the pipes, because the inside of the kitchen sink pipe was covered in black goo. I soaked a sponge in bleach and stuffed it up the pipe a couple times, which cleaned part of the pipe very effectively. Then I turned the bathroom sink faucet on and heard the water splash into the bucket. Eureka, that was the answer! I screwed the cleaned siphon back on, turned the kitchen faucet on and hey presto, water running perfectly without dripping. In the kitchen only though, the bathroom sink decided to stop draining completely
I then plugged the bathroom sink overflow (there's no overflow in the kitchen) and plunged away. Tada, bathroom sink working again

So... kitchen and bathroom sinks can be connected and the whole pipe won't be cleaned if one leaves the overflow open. Hope this helps you with sink clogs in the future.
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Re: Drain clogged - Need plumbing advice

Well done you! I hope you're feeling very proud of yourself, de-gunking a U-bend isn't pleasant.

Odd that your bathroom and kitchen are so closely connected , not heard that one before. But at least you know what to do if it happens again.
I'd suggest putting a small amount of the liquid drain cleaner down the sinks every month or so and leaving it overnight, might help prevent black goo build-up in future!
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Well done you! I hope you're feeling very proud of yourself, de-gunking a U-bend isn't pleasant.

Odd that your bathroom and kitchen are so closely connected , not heard that one before. But at least you know what to do if it happens again.
I'd suggest putting a small amount of the liquid drain cleaner down the sinks every month or so and leaving it overnight, might help prevent black goo build-up in future!
Haha thanks

I'll run some cleaner down regularly from now on, that goo made me very happy that I hadn't eaten before de-gunking. I'm proud of the fact that I probably saved a hundred bucks or more in plumber fees by doing this gross but quick and effective repair myself
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Well done glowjupiter! Sounds like you have a new career - if you want one. Glowjupiter plumbing, how does that sound?
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Well done glowjupiter! Sounds like you have a new career - if you want one. Glowjupiter plumbing, how does that sound?



I'll give you a call for the next de-gunking, now that sounds better. Less retching for me, anyway
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Precisely
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