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Old 29.04.2007, 18:07
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Where to live in Geneva??

We did an impromptu bit of house hunting in Geneva this week, looking mainly at houses (none of which we liked) however they did show us 1 apartment (which we did).

Trouble is we don't know where is good to live - had envisaged us living in a house in a village, and we're now thinking about an apartment in Carouge.

It's a topfloor duplex, 148msq, 3bed, 2 terraces for 3000chf.

We guess one of the main advantages is that the utilities are included so it'll be easier to budget, and the transport links to centre of Geneva are superb.
Based on our Berkshire village lifestyle the area looks a bit grubby to us but we don't want to miss out on a great apartment if we're just being a bit snobby (and not very urban) about it! The relocation agent seemed a bit wet behind the ears (he got lost everywhere we went, and said every place was really good value!) so we don't know whether to trust his advice.

Can anyone offer advice as to good areas in Geneva/Carouge etc?

Does this apartment sound like a bargain?

Many thanks - and sorry for rambling (really should've taken the laptop to geneva!)

Kate
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

Carouge is a good place to live, plenty of cute little shops, nice cafes and restaurants, there is even a decent cinema. It is also minutes away from the city centre.

It seems a decent price for the size and the inclusive utilities, what part of Carouge is it?
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

My only advice to you is to live close to where you work. Traffic is a problem in Geneva and around, although public transport is excellent.

There are many nice places to live, depending on what you are looking for. If a long drive to the office doesnīt put you off there are even more! Many people live on the French side of the border, itīs supposed to be cheaper (but is far more rural). Because of high living costs people commute as far as from the other end of the lake...
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

Thank you both

It's just off the rue du Grand Bureau, and is a couple of mins walk from the tram for husband's commute which should be under 10mins.

Carouge itself seems lovely, just don't think we're in the nice bit!

Father has talked a lot of sense this evening - we're in classic can't see the wood for the trees territory. We could always move if we really don't like it!
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

Father is indeed right.

Rue du Grand-Bureau is actually in Les Acacias, which is not as picturesque as Carouge, that's for sure but the flat seems ace so if I were you, I would not worry too much about that.

Once you're there, go in the countryside, plenty of cute villages there, most of them have a bus connection to a transport hub. Even better if you can get somewhere on the Geneva-La Plaine train line (although avoid La Plaine, it's the home of a chemical factory producing aromas, you sometimes wake up with an almighty pong of bananas or pickled onions ), the train journey is very fast to the town centre.
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

Not the first time we've been misled by an estate agent

Is Les Acacias a nice area to live in? Obviously it's not as picturesque as Carouge itself.
Seems odd that having heard how there's no nightlife in Geneva, we've found an apartment with 4 bars and a nightclub in the adjacent streets This isn't a bonus to us with a 7month old baby!

I'm assuming that since the Swiss are so keen on no noise after 10pm from their neighbours - i shouldn't expect to be disturbed by the nightclub?

We're still a bit stuck as to what to do: husband's work will pay for a househunting trip for us if we decide against it, but i'll be forever kicking myself if we don't find something as good, but i would really love a house with a garden...ramble, ramble, ramble
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Is Les Acacias a nice area to live in? Obviously it's not as picturesque as Carouge itself.
Define nice. It is definitely not posh and snotty. Miles away from the "house with garden experience".

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Seems odd that having heard how there's no nightlife in Geneva, we've found an apartment with 4 bars and a nightclub in the adjacent streets This isn't a bonus to us with a 7month old baby!

I'm assuming that since the Swiss are so keen on no noise after 10pm from their neighbours - i shouldn't expect to be disturbed by the nightclub?
If you're living on the top floor, chances are very slim that you'd hear much of the night club noise anyway. Plus the Monte-Cristo isn't that rowdy, so unless you live exactly on top of it, I wouldn't bother. However you'll find that the "no noise after 10pm" is rather loosely adhered to in Western Switzerland.

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We're still a bit stuck as to what to do: husband's work will pay for a househunting trip for us if we decide against it, but i'll be forever kicking myself if we don't find something as good, but i would really love a house with a garden...ramble, ramble, ramble
Houses in general aren't exactly easy to find in Geneva AND moving tends to equate a ripoff. In my opinion you should be fairly sure it's what you are looking for in terms of location, setting etc BEFORE you move.
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

Les Acacias is a working-class neighbourhood (in so much as you have the concept of class in Geneva...) which is well located, close to the centre and close to Carouge which is a lovely little city (Carouge did in fact belong to the Dukes of Savoy and Sardinia and is called "la cite Sarde", the architecture is a bit different and it was always considered as a more relaxed place compared to calvinist Geneva). It's not the Berkshire countryside but it's not a council estate either

House living is a bit of an expensive habit in Geneva (although at the rate prices go up in the UK, it's looking less and less expensive) and most people live in apartements, even in the more posh subburban parts of the Canton. There are plenty of parks and the countryside is really next door. In fact, you have a nice big river right next where you live (Arve).

Noise wise, I don't think you should have problems but there is none of that toilet-flushing stuff, it's a more latin city and people are generally more noisy and less obsessed with rules and regulations (Geneva is considered the basket-case of Switzerland by some...)

Sign a short-term lease, find you feets and then you'll have something to do on sundays

Personnally, I lived in three areas in Geneva, Charmilles, right next to Parc Geisendorf, quiet and central, Servette, less quiet and central, Paquis, not quiet and central. All had their charms although the latter was not for those easily shocked by the sight of ladies of the night....
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

thanks for all the info everyone

well we've decided to go back on a proper househunting trip - just can't resist the offer of another expenses paid city break

we hadn't properley researched the property market as we weren't intending to look. next time we'll be better prepared.

thanks for all your help - we're taking the laptop next time!
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

Hello (again!)

I would agree with what other posters say, its a fairly central area, and close to carouge which is lovely. Plus easy to get to eg Plainpalais, which I really like. But it is miles away from house with garden experience, and with summer coming up you might find yourself desperate to be outside. Of course there are masses of parks and the lake etc, and all not too far from all of this and its so easy to get anywhere in Geneva, and you';ll be right on loads of public transport routes.

Because finding a property here can be a nightmare it might def be an idea to get this on a short term contract if poss (eg 6months). Then you wontbe completely desparate for somewhere because, eg yr husband is starting work and you are in a hotel or something. We did this when first arrived. Its so much easier and will give you chance to look in (slightly) more relaxed way. Or you might find that you really like where you are and the apartments a good size or whatever.

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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

Personally, I wouldn't live there.... I found it a bit depressing. We rented a lovely furnished flat (for three months from a couple who were traveling) there when we first moved to Geneva and I was thrilled to get away! But, having said that, finding a place can be very difficult. So, only you can say how desperate the situtation is....
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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

I'm a twenty-something American moving to Geneva for a postgrad degree and considering rooms in two different locations, Plainpalais (by the old town) and Grand-Lancy. My primary concern is transport time to school (HEI, by the UN offices), the lake for sports, and interesting neighborhoods in which to hang out. Grand-Lancy looks kind of far away on a bus map, but I realize that could be misleading since Geneva is a smaller city

I know you pay for location and Grand-Lancy is obviously cheaper. I'm a quieter young adult who's worked for five years, but I still like to go out and all that. Any thoughts?

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Re: Where to live in Geneva??

Plainpalais is more central indeed but quite noisy, lots of traffic and it won't get any better next summer (Euro2008) when the giant screens will go up. You describe yourself as a quiet chap, head for Grand-Lancy, there are buses and trams that will take you in town quickly enough or to Carouge which is a good place to hang out.
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