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My wife, son, daughter and I are immigrating to Zug in April from South Africa and have been on the web for many weeks and hours looking for property to rent. Prices range from city to city depending on location (views) and house (not many of these available)/apartment features. I need assistance on establishing a realistic budget for the best value and features for rental property in Zug and in CH in general. We need 4 Zimmers (bedrooms ;-)) lounge, dining etc.. views are important, proximity to transport and shops/facilities are also NB. What should you expect for what price? Our budget estimate is between CHF3500 and CHF5500 so far from properties we like online, are we being unrealistic?
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Re: Renting: what value/features do/should you get for what price

It really depends on the location or the property and the distance to the shops/train station/bus stop. The size of the property can also vary a lot. For CHF 5500 a month in Zug i've seen a 4 bed (only 140m2 though) garden flat right in town, so it is possible, but it won't get you views. Another place with 4 bedrooms, bigger rooms, views and a sunny garden can be CHF 7000 a month.
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Re: Renting: what value/features do/should you get for what price

Do you have your heart set on public transportation? There are many beautiful villages just outside Zug that are a very short drive away from the city centre, where you'll get more space and better views for your money.
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Re: Renting: what value/features do/should you get for what price

Have you been checking out all the rental sites for the area?

Houses do seem a bit sparse. I only saw one during myproperty hunting but some of the apartments were fantastic and soon forgot about trying for a house.

You have a good budget so keep you options open.

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My wife, son, daughter and I are immigrating to Zug in April from South Africa and have been on the web for many weeks and hours looking for property to rent. We need 4 Zimmers (bedrooms ;-)) lounge, dining etc.. views are important, proximity to transport and shops/facilities
Be careful, usually 4 zimmers means 4 rooms, not 4 bedrooms! So a 4 and 1/2 Zimmer would probably be 3 bedrooms 1 wohnzmmer (living room) and kitchen/diner. A better indication may be the inner grundflache (inside area in m2). This will also give you an indication of the size of the rooms. Go on to homegate.ch and look at pictures.
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Do you have your heart set on public transportation? There are many beautiful villages just outside Zug that are a very short drive away from the city centre, where you'll get more space and better views for your money.
We actually drove through Zug in November last year and were impressed with Oberageri and Unterageri, Wachwill, Oberwill area's, is affordability better in these areas? There does not seem to be much on offer on Oberageri itself...
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Have you been checking out all the rental sites for the area?

Houses do seem a bit sparse. I only saw one during myproperty hunting but some of the apartments were fantastic and soon forgot about trying for a house.

You have a good budget so keep you options open.

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We have looked at every site listing CH properties, right to the kantonal banks themselves, best hist are homegate, immostreet, immoscout, immostreet24, betterhomes, the rest have smaller selections. Apartments do seem to be the way to go, so long as new neighbours dont mind the South African braai's(barbecues) every Saturday with rugby ;-), we are used to outdoor space.
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Old 06.01.2010, 20:01
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Here's an example- but this one may be a bit of drive to get anywhere. For 4 bedrooms you need to look at at least a 5.5 or preferably 6.5 Zimmer.

Have a look at the pictures of different rooms

http://www.homegate.ch/homegate/de/i...ault&a=default
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Re: Renting: what value/features do/should you get for what price

We looked at about 20 apartments/free-standing houses with 4 bedrooms or more. The smallest was probably 1800 sq. ft. The largest we looked at was waaaaay out in the country at 3500 sq. ft. They ranged from ZERO yard and Zero views to large yard and fabulous views. None were below 6000 CHF per month and they went up to 12,500 per month. 4 bedrooms with a view and a yard/garden and a balcony is going to cost you roughly 8,000 per month.
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Here's an example- but this one may be a bit of drive to get anywhere. For 4 bedrooms you need to look at at least a 5.5 or preferably 6.5 Zimmer.

Have a look at the pictures of different rooms

http://www.homegate.ch/homegate/de/i...ault&a=default
I couldn't see how many bedrooms this place had. For many place i've looked at it isn't obvious. It depends on how big the rooms are. Some places class a large lounge/dining room as 2 rooms. My last place was 2 large bedrooms and a gigantic lounge (over 60m2) and was 4.5 rooms.
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South African braai's(barbecues) every Saturday with rugby ;-), we are used to outdoor space.
I'll bring the boerewors!
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My wife, son, daughter and I are immigrating to Zug in April from South Africa and have been on the web for many weeks and hours looking for property to rent. Prices range from city to city depending on location (views) and house (not many of these available)/apartment features. I need assistance on establishing a realistic budget for the best value and features for rental property in Zug and in CH in general. We need 4 Zimmers (bedrooms ;-)) lounge, dining etc.. views are important, proximity to transport and shops/facilities are also NB. What should you expect for what price? Our budget estimate is between CHF3500 and CHF5500 so far from properties we like online, are we being unrealistic?
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We actually drove through Zug in November last year and were impressed with Oberageri and Unterageri, Wachwill, Oberwill area's, is affordability better in these areas? There does not seem to be much on offer on Oberageri itself...
You do realise that they are the more expensive areas of Zug (which is daft expensive anyway), the rentals rates are high and property tight. In those areas, with your budget finding a house with your spec' will be like a needle in a haystack... it's what everyone wants. You have been posting/looking for a property for a while now with no success, so I think you need to revisit your priorities... or budget. We had a similar shopping list and gave up on Zug, moved out of town just in ZH canton, and ticked nearly all the boxes. We looked at apt' with the spec' of our current one Zug, in the areas you mentionedand the price was between 1,350 -1,800 more expensive and a longer commute to Landis & Gyrstrasse.... good bye kt Zug hello kt Zurich
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How old are your kids? can anyone suggest good schools in Zug? I found that if the kids are happy it takes so much stress off.
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We have looked at every site listing CH properties, right to the kantonal banks themselves, best hist are homegate, immostreet, immoscout, immostreet24, betterhomes, the rest have smaller selections. Apartments do seem to be the way to go, so long as new neighbours dont mind the South African braai's(barbecues) every Saturday with rugby ;-), we are used to outdoor space.
I'm Australian and will bbq in any weather. I chose my place because of the outdoor space - I really missed it having 2 small overlooked balconies in my last place. I have a 70m2 roof terrace with 270 degree views over the lake and mountains. As PapaGoose said, Zug rents are really high, and I don't think I could afford the rent on the place that I own until retirement seeing what the other houses in my neighbourhood ask for on homegate. I don't have a guest room and my kids share a room until we get the rooms charged around (I have a rather large wardrobe that should be a room ).

I've also been looking at what I can afford if I move outside Kanton Zug - and it is tempting!

The next moving date is April 1st, unless you find someone that wants to leave beforehand, you'd better decide on a place soon. We moved here in December and it took until February to find a place that would take us as tenants.
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I worked in Kt. Zug when I lived in Kt. Aargau. Rents in Zug are really high.

Look closely at the location of the workplace, and the method of commuting. If you are using public transport, don't forget to factor in the walking distance to a station or bus stop. Honestly, you don't have to live in Zug just because you work there.

Many people today are facing longer commutes to work. For some it is worth it if it means they can afford to rent the property of their choice.
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