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Don't take this personally, but I don't think the Swiss authorities are to blame for you moving to the 6th most expensive city in the world with no money under your belt, having not done your research or planning prior to arrival.

What job are you going to be doing here?
Ok, I don't recall blaming anyone, certainly didn't mention authorities, and am not likely to either.

Expense isn't so much an issue as just getting it done.

I was on holiday when I got the job, got ill towards the end and spent four days in bed throwing up before catching a plane here to start work

I've worked in over ten cities in Europe and always founbd it easier to sort things out when you're physically there.

But fair enough, point taken
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With your attitude........the more people like you that stay & brighten this place up with some of that witty sarcasm the better!!!

I would put you up no problem for the cost of my weekly beer bill (about 20 SFr) until you are sorted but it would take you ages to get to work.

1. someone pulls out their finger & helps you out (a lot of people on here live in massive apartments I'm sure).

or 2. COACHSURFING.COM
I can't tell if you're serious about anything here. If you are, I'll take you up. Doesn't need to be for long.
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try this one out
http://www.wgzimmer.ch/
am sure you might find a temporary accommodation from here
Yeah, I've been using this. They all make a list...
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first of all you have low number of free flats in ZH. its a landlords market.

i have got mine today, saw 2 flats in total, both this week. and the flat i wanted i got. the point is you need to have your papers ready. read sticky post in housing thread etc.

what my landlord said is: we want to rent the place to solvent, non-smoking, quiet, no pets having tennant with the aim to rent for a long term.

and thats how was perceived obviously.
Huh, you speak German, its easy for you to say. It's just racism, ha ha ha

I'm a solvent, non-smoking, quiet, no pets having tennant with the aim to rent for a long term. I just want to get it done rapido before ai waste too much money needlessly. better things to spend it on
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I have a 2 room flat in ZH empty at present for 3-4 months but i would need 4 months rent, 3 months as guarantee, 1 month for current rent , a copy of your RC insurance policy and copy of your emplyoment contract. Rent Sfr 2'500/month, in advance. If your interested i'll put you in contact with my lawyer, you deal with them directly
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Some things you might be required to provide:
Credit worthiness ie no credit black-list
Copy of permit
Ability to pay ie copy of salary slip
Maybe some others, but other peeps might have better info
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Besides the above, a copy of your work contract as well as references from previous landlords (if any) will come in helpful as well.

No, not a joke.
www.homegate.ch is the best source for anyone looking for apartments here in Switzerland. Private landlords as well as housing agencies all advertise on there.

Good luck.
Not blacklisted, do I have to take a copy of a credit check to prove it? I work for Zurich and previously for a bank, you can't get a job there if you haven't got good credit, although with banks these days that's a bit of a joke, seeing as they were all bailed out by, er, me. In fact half of them are owned by, er, me.

Not got a permit yet - you've got 90 days before you need one

Don't get a salary slip until my first paycheck - about two weeks after my first month...

I've got a work contract, but it's very complicated...

References not a problem, but I've never needed them before and it's a biot of a ballache. And I haven't got them now.

Oh well, if anyone fancies me paying to kip on their coach or spare room...I'm good company, honest
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Not blacklisted, do I have to take a copy of a credit check to prove it? I work for Zurich and previously for a bank, you can't get a job there if you haven't got good credit, although with banks these days that's a bit of a joke, seeing as they were all bailed out by, er, me. In fact half of them are owned by, er, me.

Not got a permit yet - you've got 90 days before you need one

Don't get a salary slip until my first paycheck - about two weeks after my first month...

I've got a work contract, but it's very complicated...

References not a problem, but I've never needed them before and it's a biot of a ballache. And I haven't got them now.

Oh well, if anyone fancies me paying to kip on their coach or spare room...I'm good company, honest
If you do own banks then i will be happy to rent you my spare room at 1000chf a week.
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No thanks, I don't want to spend that much. And I don't much like lawyers
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if you do own banks then i will be happy to rent you my spare room at 1000chf a week.
Halifax, Northern Rock, Lloydds etc where nationalised by the British Taxpayer. All the British Banks were bailed out by the British Taxpayer. I'm a British Taxpayer. Therefore I own the banks. Not that it does me any good, they should have let them all go to the wall. But I digress...

I'll give you CHF500 a month for 4 nights a week, and you'll hardly see me as I'll be doing 10-12 hour days. Might stay the occasional weekend, with your permission of course...or not
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Halifax, Northern Rock, Lloydds etc where nationalised by the British Taxpayer. All the British Banks were bailed out by the British Taxpayer. I'm a British Taxpayer. Therefore I own the banks. Not that it does me any good, they should have let them all go to the wall. But I digress...

I'll give you CHF500 a month for 4 nights a week, and you'll hardly see me as I'll be doing 10-12 hour days. Might stay the occasional weekend, with your permission of course...or not
Sorry chap my room isn't for rent, I do genuinely wish you luck though.
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mate you have more than very little idea about ch/ch!!no papers=no flat. simple as that. how do you thin. to prove all this with no paycheck and a complicated contract in a foreign country! with a good ol handshake? good luck! mind me being german is no a set advantage!at times rather vice versa...

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Not blacklisted, do I have to take a copy of a credit check to prove it? I work for Zurich and previously for a bank, you can't get a job there if you haven't got good credit, although with banks these days that's a bit of a joke, seeing as they were all bailed out by, er, me. In fact half of them are owned by, er, me.

Not got a permit yet - you've got 90 days before you need one

Don't get a salary slip until my first paycheck - about two weeks after my first month...

I've got a work contract, but it's very complicated...

References not a problem, but I've never needed them before and it's a biot of a ballache. And I haven't got them now.

Oh well, if anyone fancies me paying to kip on their coach or spare room...I'm good company, honest
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Re: Why is it so complicated to find accommodation?

Hi there

Just to let you know a couple of things that helped me get an apartment.

I did put an application pack together, containing a copy of my employment contract, a copy of my permit, a copy of my Betreibungsauskunft (this is a letter confirming you have no debts in Switzerland, which you can get from your kreisburo - it costs about 20CHF), and obviously the application form.

I also went to the agency in person - this was advice from my manager at work, who is Swiss, as it shows that you are keen. I found out the next day that I got the apartment.

I wasn't looking for a flatshare though, so I'm not sure if the process is different.

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mate you have more than very little idea about ch/ch!!no papers=no flat. simple as that. how do you thin. to prove all this with no paycheck and a complicated contract in a foreign country! with a good ol handshake? good luck! mind me being german is no a set advantage!at times rather vice versa...
Never had this trouble anywhere else

How do I get a paycheck without getting paid? How do I uncomplicate a contract that my employer gives me? Anyway I don't want a flat, just a room. Or a bed. Or a couch. Just for the short term
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Never had this trouble anywhere else

How do I get a paycheck without getting paid? How do I uncomplicate a contract that my employer gives me? Anyway I don't want a flat, just a room. Or a bed. Or a couch. Just for the short term
yes, true. but thats of no interest for ch-landlords with a line-up of tennants having all that. you see?
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just get a letter from your employer saying you are hired for x years on xxx salary. that will help for a start. that's all i had and i managed to open a bank account with UBS and get a flat with it.
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Besides the above, a copy of your work contract as well as references from previous landlords (if any) will come in helpful as well.

The work contract is none of the landlord's business. He/she should call the HR contact you provide on the rental application to confirm your employment details (salary, etc).

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No, not a joke.
www.homegate.ch is the best source for anyone looking for apartments here in Switzerland. Private landlords as well as housing agencies all advertise on there.
Actually, not so. The number of responses to a homegate advert is overwhelming and a lot of owners have chosen more obscure websites, especially those that are free and where you cannot search in English to try and have only German speaking applicants. I have found some real gems on some of these websites. In many cases you can only reply in writing, there is no phone number, no email.
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This should be a heading thread in the housing forum, along with any other brief synopsis of the state of the Swiss housing market.

I haven't got the money, one reason I accepted a job here. At the moment its costing me more to live than I'm earning. I've got family back home to support. I can't afford to stay in a hotel until the end of the month. Maybe I could try a homeless hostel/sheltered accomadation if it gets desperate. Do they have them here? Or do they just ignore poverty and hope it goes away...

They do have youth hostels here.

Must it be in Zürich? If not, I'll take a look around for you. I have helped a number of people, mostly young kids who are doing apprenticeships who are all on very limited budgets. It would help to know the location of your office (nearest train station).
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Never had this trouble anywhere else

How do I get a paycheck without getting paid? How do I uncomplicate a contract that my employer gives me? Anyway I don't want a flat, just a room. Or a bed. Or a couch. Just for the short term
Your not getting it are you, there are rules here to get accomodation, whatever you did before, and wherever you did it mean diddly to a landlord Zurich, especially when the market is a tight as a duck 4rse. People are telling you how to proceed, follow the advice, or get what you've got.

Go armed with copies of:
bank statements, your contract, ref's if poss and give your self the opportunity, it's all about showing goodwill to a landlord.

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Your not getting it are you, there are rules here to get accomodation, whatever you did before, and wherever you did it mean diddly to a landlord Zurich, especially when the market is a tigh as a duck 4rse. People are telling you how to proceed, follow the advice, or get what you've got.

Go armed with copies of:
bank statements, your contract, ref's if poss and give your self the opportunity, it's all about showing goodwill to a landlord.
I agree, there are rules but what happens when you need something temporarily and are on a tight budget? From what I understand, the guy is looking for something short term, 1-2 months, in case the project he is working on doesn't get funding and he no longer has a job. He is here alone, supporting a family back home so he already has one household to maintain. I have offered to help, but I don't have contacts in Zürich, just Kt. Aargau. If a longer commute isn't out of the question, I'll see what I can do.

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The work contract is none of the landlord's business. He/she should call the HR contact you provide on the rental application to confirm your employment details (salary, etc).
I agree that the work contract is none of the landlord's business. But if I am in the landlord's shoes (as I am currently in my home country), between 2 potential tenants, one with a work contract stating all his terms and conditions and one with just a contact reference, I will pick the one with the information available right there and then, rather than making a phone call to a large multi national, waiting to get into the right department and for them to get back to me with all the information about that prospective tenant. Then again, thats just from a non-Swiss perspective - I cant be arsed

From the tenant's point of view, if I want a flat, I will make sure that all the information is available right there and then at the deciding person's fingertips without having to make him jump through any hoops in order to elevate my chances.
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