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Flat SCAM! (or not?)

I'm looking for a new place to stay recently and I've come across a questionable situation.

I saw an ad on immostreet.ch for a 3.0, 90cm2 flat incl. furniture, just off Bahnhofstrasse for CHF 1400 per month. There are some photos of the flat on immostreet as well. Having lived in Zurich for some years, I would say this is impossible.

Nevertheless out of curiosity, I expressed interest and after some short email conversation, the flat owner agreed to rent it to me (should I want it as well), without asking me about my salary. He did ask me for my occupation and the number of people intending to live in the flat. He also told me that since he has moved to Liverpool, a rental agency handles everything on his behalf. The rule of the agency is that they require a deposit (equivalent to one month's rent) which is 100% refundable should I not wish to rent the property.

I asked to arrange a viewing, and he forwarded my contact info to the agency and within a few hours, I got an email from them. I was expecting this agency to be Swiss-based, but instead, it's a UK-based agency called Royal Rentals. They sent me an invoice including how to send money to them with Western Union. They also said that the flat keys are being sent to me via express post.

Now, my head is screaming 'SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!', but i thought i might post it here and see what the general opinion is, in case i miss out on a great bargin! But since i think it's too good to be true, it probably is...

Has anyone heard of this agency 'Royal Rentals'??
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

Western Union?????

SCAM!

If it sounds too good to be true. It is. Report the ad to immostreet please.
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

SCAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Never use western union unless it is between family or trusted people
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Old 09.03.2010, 22:34
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

Just to recap: I think what people are trying to say, is that this sounds like a scam.

Out of interest, is there anyone one can/should report these folks to?
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Old 09.03.2010, 22:36
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I'm looking for a new place to stay recently and I've come across a questionable situation.

I saw an ad on immostreet.ch for a 3.0, 90cm2 flat incl. furniture, just off Bahnhofstrasse for CHF 1400 per month. There are some photos of the flat on immostreet as well. Having lived in Zurich for some years, I would say this is impossible.

Nevertheless out of curiosity, I expressed interest and after some short email conversation, the flat owner agreed to rent it to me (should I want it as well), without asking me about my salary. He did ask me for my occupation and the number of people intending to live in the flat. He also told me that since he has moved to Liverpool, a rental agency handles everything on his behalf. The rule of the agency is that they require a deposit (equivalent to one month's rent) which is 100% refundable should I not wish to rent the property.

I asked to arrange a viewing, and he forwarded my contact info to the agency and within a few hours, I got an email from them. I was expecting this agency to be Swiss-based, but instead, it's a UK-based agency called Royal Rentals. They sent me an invoice including how to send money to them with Western Union. They also said that the flat keys are being sent to me via express post.

Now, my head is screaming 'SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!', but i thought i might post it here and see what the general opinion is, in case i miss out on a great bargin! But since i think it's too good to be true, it probably is...

Has anyone heard of this agency 'Royal Rentals'??
What does your gut tell you. I bet you would lose all your money if you send it Western Union.
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Old 09.03.2010, 22:42
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

thanks for the quick replies, guys!
rrs, my gut does tell me that this is nothing but a scam; thanks for confirming it!
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Old 09.03.2010, 22:45
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I saw an ad on immostreet.ch for a 3.0, 90cm2 flat incl. furniture, just off Bahnhofstrasse for CHF 1400 per month. There are some photos of the flat on immostreet as well. Having lived in Zurich for some years, I would say this is impossible.
That is a fair amount of money for that kind of space.
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Old 09.03.2010, 22:46
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

This is a scam, and ironically I've seen people fall for it actually in Liverpool...

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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

Natascha: oops, i meant 90m2

I've reported this ad to immostreet, hope they can do something about it
Is there somewhere I can report this to? The agency has a website and all, would be nice to prevent other people from getting cheated!
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Old 09.03.2010, 22:52
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

On a related note, just in case you do decide to go ahead with this:

I have a state of the art HP laptop, a Macbook Pro and a slightly soiled balaclava for sale. CHF1000. Payment by Western Union only. My Uncle, Crown Prince Dougal Ringarangaroupeee will also throw in a 50% stake in the Ghanaian Crown Jewels that are currently residing in a Swiss deposit box. I can furnish you with the details in return for your name, address, bank account details and mother's telephone number.

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Old 09.03.2010, 23:45
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

Jekyll is a SCAMMER

Buy only from reliable persons...

I have a new iPhone 32GB White Original Packaging for sale
All product details on the Apple Website

Starting bids at 100 CHF...

Payment by Western Union or PayPal
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Old 10.03.2010, 10:41
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

This one was posted on Craig's list. Also a scam we think as the guy was asking for a deposit before even agreeing a visit. It's a shame as there are probably a few people who have no idea how it all works here in Switzerland and would easily fall for this thing.



Hello,
Thanks for your kind response and interest you derived to rent my apartment, i'm very delighted to rent you my apartment. It's very much available for rent, both in short and long term rent. It's fully furnished apartmentthat located in the heart of the city, located at Bienenstrasse 15 8004 Zurich, Switzerland,it's situated at the second floor of the building in a very nice environs and safe area to live, its just about 100m to its metrol station, restaurant and public transport all around and it's just 5mins to the supermarket. It is spacious apartment of about 120m2, it has two bedrooms, each room has it's own private bathroom and toilet, spacious living room that has DVD,Cable TV,computer with internet connection (broadband),landline phone with well equiped new kitchen with modern facilities such as dish washer,washing machine,refridgerator,microwave and oven and there is parking space for car.

Therefore, i attached the pictures of my apartment to this email, so that you can have an idea of my property before we meet in person, a room will cost 680chf per calender month while the whole apartment is 1,300chf and the security deposit payment is 1,400chf and it's refundable at the termination of the contract and the bills include all charges such as water, gas,heating, electricity and internet etc and there is no extral charges rate and it also possible to rent it unfurnished, if you prefered, i have store room to keep my own furnitures..

Actually, i' m Bravo Juzi, the right owner of apartment address describle above, presently i'm in UK for long contract, so i'm earning my living with my families here in UK. I 'll make arrangement with you to view my apartment after i confirm your full interest to rent myproperty due to my past experienced with unserious tenant. If you're really serious and ready to rent my apartment, kindly get back to me with your details.


NAME: GENDER;
CURRENT ADDRESS;
DATE OF BIRTH;
PASSPORT ID NUMBER;
NATIONALITY ID NUMBER;
MOVE IN DATE:
MOVE OUT DATE:
TELEPHONE NUMBER:

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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

I was going to state in my post that craigslist would be the next place I'd expect to hear a scam like the OP's. Well there you have it...
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

I recently read a similar story of a luxury holiday home somewhere in the French part of Switzerland. A UK family showed up for skiing after paying an astronomical amount of money, but the house didn't exist. Apparently the website, etc. was all very professional looking, but they were still duped.

Update: I found the link to the article http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss_ne...ml?cid=8259974

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Just to recap: I think what people are trying to say, is that this sounds like a scam.

Out of interest, is there anyone one can/should report these folks to?
Why bother, it's so obviously a scam. Chf 1400 on Bahnhof for 90m, yeah sure, includes free beer & spliffs too
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

Nely579 - this Bienenstrasse 15 8004 Zurich posting was definitely a scam! We got the same reply, word for word. Sounded incredibly dodgy, so just moved on. Agree - trust your instincts. After looking around a bit, you start to know what certain apartments would cost. If they are MUCH cheaper than you would imagine.....IT'S A SCAM!!!!!!
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Nely579 - this Bienenstrasse 15 8004 Zurich posting was definitely a scam! We got the same reply, word for word. Sounded incredibly dodgy, so just moved on. Agree - trust your instincts. After looking around a bit, you start to know what certain apartments would cost. If they are MUCH cheaper than you would imagine.....IT'S A SCAM!!!!!!
I hate to say it, but could you do something about your font? It's really quite annoying to read. Sorry.
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Why bother, it's so obviously a scam. Chf 1400 on Bahnhof for 90m, yeah sure, includes free beer & spliffs too
To you and most of us here, yes. But not to all - especially those who've never lived in CH or outside their own country.

We all know a phishing scam when we see one... or do we? Clearly enough people fall for these scams to make it worthwhile for them (the phishers) to continue.

Now, I know you don't suffer fools gladly (my opinion based on the posts you've made ), but still, if I knew where to report it, I would.

When I get a phishing email from a real bank, I usually make the time to send an email to that bank to inform them that their clients might be targets of a phishing scam. Might be like pïssing in a hurricane for all the good it does and thanks I get (i.e. none), but at least I feel that I've done something right.
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Re: Flat SCAM! (or not?)

hello,
i need urgent help from You guys, experienced and living long time here.
I got offer for 1 room out of appartment for 700 CHf in Talstrasse, 8001 Zürich, which should be GOOD address according to maps. Guy says he is in England on project for Vodafone (sales manager), i've got his phone and we called each other, phone starting with +447.
He is even sending me copy of his belgium passport (but i also know few tricks in photoshop). Of course he wants 700+850 CHf sent by Western Union, and he'll send me keys to place i define.
It sounds very good, and i really need some resting place, but everything points to the fact that it's scam.
I'll definitely go and check that address tommorow and ask around his neighbours...
What do you think?
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