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[Recommended towns near GVA:] Veyrier, Pas de l'Echelle, Collonges-sous-S.

OK, I posted thread "How is life in Annemasse" and no one had a nice word to say about it. So unless someone stands up for you, Annemasse you're out! Still trying to find somewhere to live with 2 children (who will be going to school in Geneva town centre) and 2 cats. What are the pluses and minuses of living in Veyrier, Pas de l'Echelle, Collonges-sous-Saleves, St Julien en Genevois, (other places I should investigate)? Someone on this forum said they were only 15 mn from Geneva centre, but is it the same by car at rush hour time? How is the situation with public transport (if any)? Shopping for every day life?

We are (hopefully!) meeting a relocation agency at the beginning of June, so they should help us, but I'm very keen to hear it first hand from individuals actually living there and knowing all the ins and outs.

Thanks anyone who can contribute to the discussion!
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Old 03.05.2010, 21:17
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It's sure that at rush hour..... it's a bit longer, but if you go 5 minutes before or later, the situation can be totally different. You just need to test...
I lived ten years in La Croix-de-Rozon, which is nearby Collonges-Sous-Salève (just over the border). Took 15 minutes to be in the center of Geneva with a motorcycle on rush hour (...) Two buses go from Croix-de-Rozon to Carouge, but you can change and take a tramway which goes in Geneva center and also Gares des Eaux-vives and a bit farther (N°12)

There's several shops in Saint-Julien-En-Genevois, a Migros at Neydens (where I actually live) and two shops in Collonges-sous-salève.
Cinemas nearby at the Archamps. (cheaper than in Geneva, but only in French)

And I love to live here. Geneva is really near and you're in the countryside....
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Re: Veyrier, Pas de l'Echelle, Collonges-sous-S.

Thank you Bertrand! I think you already put us on the right track in previous e-mails and the area you live in is more and more fitting with where we would like to live. Next step: finding accommodation! That should be fun!!

Relocation agency should be on the case soon, and we'll definitely visit the belt of villages around St Julien in June.

Many thanks again and perhaps a bientot sur le forum...ou dans Geneve!
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Old 04.05.2010, 07:42
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I'll be happy to share a welcome drink with you

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Re: [Recommended towns near GVA:] Veyrier, Pas de l'Echelle, Collonges-sous-S.

I have replied in the "Annemasse" thread. Maybe you should ask the mods to merge your threads (or at least the 3 out of 4 [?] directly related to your search in neighbouring France).
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I'll be happy to share a welcome drink with you

Likewise! I'll report back after our visit in June as to where exactly we'll be settling down. Thanks again for your brilliant help!

One last question: we spotted on internet a house in Neydens. As a cyclist, how long does it take you to go over the border or say, Carouge?
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One last question: we spotted on internet a house in Neydens. As a cyclist, how long does it take you to go over the border or say, Carouge?
Less than 30 min for the inbound journey.

Depends on your fitness for returning home (slight climb).

As a rough guide (for me): Neydens -> GVA airport = 35 min;
GVA airport -> Neydens = 45 min (about 15 km / single journey)
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We are (hopefully!) meeting a relocation agency at the beginning of June, so they should help us, but I'm very keen to hear it first hand from individuals actually living there and knowing all the ins and outs.
What about Divonne ? I don't personally know all the ins and outs of it but quite a few of my colleagues and acquaintances live out there. It is some sort of a spa and definitely more attractive than Annemasse. It also has a casino where you can spend all your money. - And last not least, it has an artificial lake - nice to walk round it on a Sunday afternoon if you are not driving out into the country.

Also it is not very far from the Chavannes de Bogis shopping centre.

Good luck with flat hunting.
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Re: [Recommended towns near GVA:] Veyrier, Pas de l'Echelle, Collonges-sous-S.

Divonne is definitely better than Annemasse. But not in the same price range though...
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Re: [Recommended towns near GVA:] Veyrier, Pas de l'Echelle, Collonges-sous-S.

Hi there. I am in Notts too and spend half my time in Switzerland and half here. I love it there. We live at Lonay as we did not want to be that close to Geneva and there is a brilliant and punctual train service from Morges that my husband catches every day and I shop at Allaman or Morges (Coop) but I imagine that if you do your research and like living in a city and are used to it, anywhere around Geneva will be ok. There are good local schools at Lonay and Morges or the international schools in Lausanne, about 15 mins. When do you move to Switzerland? Also rents are cheaper out of town and you get more for your money. Have you explored the having your own washing machine situation?
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Re: [Recommended towns near GVA:] Veyrier, Pas de l'Echelle, Collonges-sous-S.

Thank you for this. For us, key factor is that both children will be attending International School route de chene, hence the on-going quest for somewhere with public transport. The disadvantage of course is that anything near the school is way above our price range.

Where are you from exactly in Nottingham? It is such a small world! We might pester you nearer the time for recommendations for removal companies! You intrigued us with the washing machine: is there an issue we should be aware of? I seem to remember reading in the "Living and working in Switzerland" book that they're not compatible with the Swiss system. Apparently TV sets are the same but ours is 15 years-old, kids will finally get a flat-screen HD when we get there!

Thank you again!
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Less than 30 min for the inbound journey.

Depends on your fitness for returning home (slight climb).

As a rough guide (for me): Neydens -> GVA airport = 35 min;
GVA airport -> Neydens = 45 min (about 15 km / single journey)
Is it 30 mn just for over the border or actually Geneva town centre??

It is funny how time estimates vary so greatly from one EFer to another...Some must be Tour de France champions!
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It is funny how time estimates vary so greatly from one EFer to another...Some must be Tour de France champions!
Not necessarily. They may just know all the shortcuts including those that are one-way streets in the wrong direction or officially banned to all traffic.
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Not necessarily. They may just know all the shortcuts including those that are one-way streets in the wrong direction or officially banned to all traffic.
Not necessarily: 15 km in 35 min = 26 km/h

Largely doable with a decent bike, a bit of training, on a slight decline and given that you never have to queue up at the trafic lights...

BTW: Lots of people who seem afraid of the "training part" seem to do fine with these posh electric bikes...
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Largely doable with a decent bike, a bit of training, on a slight decline and given that you never have to queue up at the trafic lights...
Does that ever happen ? In certain parts of Geneva you have to stop every 40 m or so.

Legally even cyclists have to queue up at traffic lights but I have noticed that quite a few don't. They seem to know exactly how much time they have got when the lights are red without getting into trouble. Can't say that I blame them.
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Legally even cyclists have to queue up at traffic lights but I have noticed that quite a few don't.
Sorry Higa, but that's nonsense. Of course it is absolutely legal for a cyclist to move right up to the trafic light when there's a queue of cars (And that's true everywhere in - at least continental - Europe...).

It is far more debateable for scooters and motorbikes, but there still seems to be some kind of "tolérance" in GVA as long as you use the bus lane for it (and NOT the cycle lane).
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Re: [Recommended towns near GVA:] Veyrier, Pas de l'Echelle, Collonges-sous-S.

I didn't say that cyclists should not move right up to the trafic light. But maybe I didn't explain very clearly. When I said that quite a few cyclists didn't queue up at traffic lights, I meant to say they don't stop at traffic lights. They just go ahead because they seem to know exactly how much time they have got do do this. Of course, it would be nonsence for them to queue up behind waiting cars. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
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