Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Housing in general  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21.05.2010, 21:02
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lucerne
Posts: 102
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
zufimufi has earned some respectzufimufi has earned some respect
What is included in m2 figures for apts. in CH?

I am trying to compare the size of apartments that I see online with what I got over here in CA. Is there a standard that tells me what is included in the m2 figures in the ads? Are balconies a part of it, bathrooms, kitchen? Over here it seems the ads include even the toilet cover sqft as living space
Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21.05.2010, 21:09
NotAllThere's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 13,012
Groaned at 207 Times in 184 Posts
Thanked 18,849 Times in 7,684 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is included in m2 figures for apts. in CH?

There's the living space and the total space. In my house, the living space is everything except the boiler/laundry room and the nuclear bunker. The cellar is not included in the living space, unless it can be used as a living area. Balconies are not included.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 27.05.2010, 08:47
ljm ljm is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Geneva
Posts: 754
Groaned at 7 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 375 Times in 220 Posts
ljm has an excellent reputationljm has an excellent reputationljm has an excellent reputationljm has an excellent reputation
Re: What is included in m2 figures for apts. in CH?

There are so many ways to calculate m2 (with internal walls, wall-to-wall, with outer walls, balconies counted at 25%, surface where height in rooms is below 1.2 m counted as 50% etc), and also a general tendency to inflate the actual size when advertising, so the only thing I would rely on is looking at the place myself. With a measuring tape.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank ljm for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 27.05.2010, 09:07
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tessin
Posts: 6,291
Groaned at 124 Times in 91 Posts
Thanked 7,476 Times in 3,515 Posts
Mrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is included in m2 figures for apts. in CH?

It is indeed confusing.

There are two measurements to caculate living space (Wohnfläche)The Brutto, which is what is calculated when a property is built, and this is what the architects use, then the Netto, which is the space taking into consideration the depth of the walls thereby resulting in the actual floor space. The difference between the brutto and netto can be 10-20%.

There are many creative people out there when it comes to ads but in theory what is to be counted are heated areas. However, many owners and agents tend to add unheated areas to the calculation if they deem the rooms can be used. This is less of an issue with an apartment. A balcony should not be counted.

A floor plan with room sizes is useful to have but many older apartments don't have the plan and the owners/agents can't be bothered to measure it. Some will use this service (it's mostly for properties for sale) so if you see one of these, don't panic. They are very accurate.
http://www.grundriss.com/index.php?lang=EN
__________________

Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Mrs. Doolittle for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 28.05.2010, 02:15
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lucerne
Posts: 102
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
zufimufi has earned some respectzufimufi has earned some respect
Re: What is included in m2 figures for apts. in CH?

Thank you all for the input. Sounds not much different from here in CA then. Thought folks in CH are bit more honest when it comes to listing the size of an apartment they want to rent out. I have been gone for too long I guess.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
apartement




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
unpleasant facts about great / loved figures PlantHead General off-topic 67 19.11.2013 17:06
[Possibly NSFW] Women with Curvy Figures... J.L-P General off-topic 84 13.11.2009 11:10
Hello, and info about apts near Thun/Sarnen? gwen32 Housing in general 0 30.05.2009 21:02
German schoolboy, corrects NASA's asteroid figures (and we are all doooooomed) PlantHead General off-topic 3 16.04.2008 15:51


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 20:26.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0