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Surprise at church bell noise

I've seen an apartment in Oerlikon, Schaffauserstrasse. The apartment is pretty much ok except the kitchen which is pretty old, but for the money I want to spend I didn't find much better around.

The only thing that makes me suspicious is a church bell very close to the apartment block. I don't know with which frequency this bell will sound and what time it will start.

I just don't want to wake up during the weekends at 6 or 7 or every hour because of the bell.

If anyone of you has an idea on how church bells work here in Switz... that will be more than welcome.

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Re: Church bell close to home

Oh dear, where to start :-)

Almost everywhere in Zurich you're going to have to put with at least one set of church bells. You get used to it pretty quickly though.

As for when they ring, well, that's a mystery that no-one can answer ;-)
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Old 11.06.2007, 15:39
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I've seen an apartment in Oerlikon, Schaffauserstrasse. The apartment is pretty much ok except the kitchen which is pretty old, but for the money I want to spend I didn't find much better around.

The only thing that makes me suspicious is a church bell very close to the apartment block. I don't know with which frequency this bell will sound and what time it will start.

I just don't want to wake up during the weekends at 6 or 7 or every hour because of the bell.

If anyone of you has an idea on how church bells work here in Switz... that will be more than welcome.

Thanks!


Fabio

I also have a church tower very close to me, it faces my bedroom and chimes every hour. I nearly alway sleep with the window open and it never bothers me. You screen out the bells in next to no time.
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Re: Church bell close to home

Regular chiming aside, sometimes they just go crazy for an hour or even more and can be really irritating.

But that's only when they undergo demonic possession.
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Old 11.06.2007, 15:55
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Re: Church bell close to home

You've got it easy, I have 2 within the space of 100m of my place so I have it in Stereo, surround sound........

You do get used to it over time though, I now dnt wear a watch because I ALWAYS know the time!

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Re: Church bell close to home

Guess that depends on how close it is. The best is to check the apartment out during bell ringing. If it's not too close, the noise will get screened out when you close the windows and you get use to it when it's open during summer.

My first month in CH was in a roof-apartment in Bern right next to a bell-tower. It would ring for 15mins before mass with no melody - just constant clanging. That got too much as we couldn't speak nor watch tv. We now check out the bells where we are. So long it's not a few doors down, it's probably ok.


Also, speak to the current tenants to find out how often it rings etc...

Hopefully they're honest. I saw a place just a few weeks ago where they'd live there for 4 years and were glad to move away from the bells.
(these were in the vicinity of a huge multi-bell tower)


Good luck.
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Old 11.06.2007, 16:24
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Re: Church bell close to home

you want to position yourself outside the place on Sunday morning between 0820 and 1030 - the call to the service will be the most obvious one.
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Re: Church bell close to home

For some reason (also unknown to our swiss neighbours), the church bells in our village go crazy 5 o'clock every morning. Bigtime. Maybe it is time to go to work then?

But like the others said, you will get used to it.
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Re: Church bell close to home

I live right next to a bell tower and although I have gotten used to it whilst sleeping it is bleedin annoying when you are sat outside enjoying the summer and they start clanging for 10 - 15 minutes in a tuneless din! why on earth are the bells over here so tuneless? it wouldn't be so bad if they sounded nice...

As for how often they ring, they chime every quarter of an hour and then on the hour, they ring every day for at least 10 mins at 11am and 7pm and then they also ring for 10 mins or so at other random times during the day - Sunday is the worse day - which still makes me laugh as its supposed to be a work free noise free day, what about the noise polution of the tuneless bells but at least on a sunsay there is a slight element of a tune compared to the ding, ding, ding, ding of the bells during the week - grrrrrrr

Is the apartment you are looking at at the Seebach side of Schaffauserstrasse?
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Re: Church bell close to home

Basically, there is no reason not to take a good flat just because it is close to Church bells. Where in Zurich would you live then? I used to live in the Niederdorf, churches galore. Earliest I think on weekends around 10 am. You get used to it though and I almost stopped noticing.

But even living there for 8 months, I could never ever figure out what sort of schedule these infernal bells were on.
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Re: Church bell close to home

they start around 8am on a sunday near me, i live between 2 church bells, the one nerest stops about 11.30ish and starts again at 6.45am but one a bit further away chimes all night - glad I don't live near that one!

But I agree with Chemgoddess, you'll find it hard to find somewhere away from the bells.
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I also have a church tower very close to me, it faces my bedroom and chimes every hour. I nearly alway sleep with the window open and it never bothers me. You screen out the bells in next to no time.
I guess it depends on the person. With my old place, whilst I could screen them out during the daytime, I found could not sleep with windows open and get a good night's sleep during the summer.

I had no idea why the damn things had to go on through the night as well as the day and chime every quarter hour to boot. Some sort of 7am-mindnight regieme would have been much more considerate to the local population.

Unfortunately, the issue of ringing bells seems to arouse great passions in Switzerland with people (especially older ones) getting very irate when someone complains. For a country that is generally so intolerant of noise, it always puzzled me why people were so keen to be subjected to a racket once an hour, 24 hours a day.


The best bet for a house-hunter is to simply check for proxmity of local churches when checking out accomodation. Unfortunately in Zuerich at least, the churches were absolutely everywhere.
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Re: Church bell close to home

It could be worse - you could be between a church and a rifle range.

Of course you could pay a visit to the priest and tell him how much you admire his ding-dong.

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Re: Church bell close to home

Bong!!!

There go the 10pm bells. It seems they have one deep chime for quarter past, 2 for half past, 3 for :45 and then however many in a different tone for the hour.

How many hunchbacks can there really be in Zurich?
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This is an ideal opportunity for whoever it was that was promoting sightseeing with google maps, to plot out the Zürich belltowers with Google earth, and we can do an inverse square law plot to work out the chances of you being annoyed by interfering syncopated bells...

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Bong!!!

There go the 10pm bells. It seems they have one deep chime for quarter past, 2 for half past, 3 for :45 and then however many in a different tone for the hour.

How many hunchbacks can there really be in Zurich?
Yep - they typically chime out the quarter hours (four on the hour) and then bong out the hours.

Lovely, 4 chimes and 12 bongs at midnight are just what you need if you're snoozing off. And if you're having problems getting to sleep it's just lovely that they chime and bong all night to remind you of exactly how much sleep you're missing out on ......
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Time for a bit of a rant - I don't understand the Swiss bell thing. Back in the UK I was one of those sad individuals that spent many a happy hour ringing bells in the local church prior to drinking good honest ale in the pub next door. But we had 8 of them and they were monstrous compared to the pathetic little things they have here. And we, at least, rang patterns from rounds to full peals that were (on a good day) somewhere near musical. These buggers just go bong, bong, ..... it's not even clever, mostly the bells don't even go past the upright and there is absolutley no skill required to ring them.
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Church Bells

Hello,

I've been living in Zürich for a little over a month now and have noticed that the church bells seem to ring all the time. I don't mind too much, but it seems that on sunday mornings the bells near my place ring for about an hour non-stop. Does anyone know whether there is a reason for this? I was a little surprised given the swiss aversion to noise.

Any light on this would be interesting.

Cheers
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Hello,

I've been living in Zürich for a little over a month now and have noticed that the church bells seem to ring all the time. I don't mind too much, but it seems that on sunday mornings the bells near my place ring for about an hour non-stop. Does anyone know whether there is a reason for this? I was a little surprised given the swiss aversion to noise.

Any light on this would be interesting.

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Re: Church Bells

Yes, this surprised me also.

I don't remember having that much church bell noise in Geneva, or it was maybe that I didn't lived near to the church.

Here in Zürich Enge I am close to the church and the church clock rings its bells every 15 minutes. On sundays at 7am they ring the bells for 15 minutes non-stop at least calling for the mass, same at 6pm.

You get used to it, now I almost don't notice them.

But it is somewhat strange that in a place where silence rules are enforced so strictly, the church bells are however free to ring all night long and on sunday mornings where we need more sleep after a saturday party.
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