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So, after living in beautiful Basel, we are thinking of moving to Baselland. Why? Basically as much as we love our appartment, it is soooo noisy, expensive (although very big) and I need more green and a balcony or garden I can use and of course there is the tax issue (we could save 13.34% of what we pay in taxes). But there is also the cons, I have frauenspital very close to me now and everything is near here. Desicions, decisions, decisions....

Does any of you live or know what Grellinegen is like? I have seen beautiful pictures of it and I have to say it looks lovely. Any tips???
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Old 01.07.2010, 14:09
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How about alternatives in BL ? Like Liestal ?
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Re: Grellingen- have I lost my mind?

Sorry, I dont know anything about that place you've mentioned but I can relate to what you are going through somewhat as it all boils down to what is important to you at the end of the day and not just because you are tired of the noise.

For us, the main reason why we moved out of the city was for tax purposes as well as easier access to good walking trails - rather than having to hop into a car or tram to get there within Zurich city.

Where I am is not too far from the city that I feel so isolated - though transport on weekends arent as regular. The village centre here has all the basic amenities, like a post office, supermarket etc. I am a city cat, but after some reflection (or maybe its the age), I've concluded that its not as if I need to be near bars, restaurants, doctors or hospitals all the time so its working out really well for me.

So as I said, it really depends on what you value most at the end of the day - accessibility or peace.
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Grellingen is pretty close to Basel as the direct train takes about 15 minutes which is not bad at all. SR is right, I have to think what is important for both of us and that is sleeping...and with all the noise sometimes it is a tad difficult .
We also want to be able to go on walks and jsut enjoy the peace and quiet...I have looked in Liestal jrspet but so far have found nothing so nice and even though we would save on taxes, grellingen comes cheaper...
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Grellingen is pretty close to Basel as the direct train takes about 15 minutes which is not bad at all. SR is right, I have to think what is important for both of us and that is sleeping...and with all the noise sometimes it is a tad difficult .
We also want to be able to go on walks and jsut enjoy the peace and quiet...I have looked in Liestal jrspet but so far have found nothing so nice and even though we would save on taxes, grellingen comes cheaper...
Ange, are you in a real noisy part of the city? Sounds terrible if you arent able to sleep.

I am also now about 10-15 minutes outside Zürich city via the Sbahn. Doesnt really make a difference in travelling times to the city as tram / bus from my old place took about 15 minutes to get to the HB anyways. So I didnt compromise travelling time but got more peace and quiet, and lower taxes. Quite a popular place for the expat community too. Win-win!

Go for it!
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Re: Grellingen- have I lost my mind?

Grellingen is nice, especially since there's not through-traffic anymore. It's a sleepy town though with a small Co-op only if I remember correctly, and parts of it can be very shadowy especially in winter.

There's a slow train that takes you to Basel in about 20 minutes, there's one at least every hour and also through the night.

It has a couple of restaurants (no Gault Millault though), dentists and GPs. Sleepy is the word for it!

If you're looking Baselland because of taxes you could also check out Binningen, Arlesheim (though higher rent).

My favourite would be Laufen though (it's where I grew up) just make sure you don't live near the catholic church as the bells at 6am every morning will drive you mad
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Grellingen is pretty close to Basel as the direct train takes about 15 minutes which is not bad at all. SR is right, I have to think what is important for both of us and that is sleeping...and with all the noise sometimes it is a tad difficult .
We also want to be able to go on walks and jsut enjoy the peace and quiet...I have looked in Liestal jrspet but so far have found nothing so nice and even though we would save on taxes, grellingen comes cheaper...

I would just add a caution ... we made a mistake moving to a village (the one before this one) that was TOO SMALL. I found it really hard to make friends with the locals and it was too isolated. As well as taking a walk around the village you are considering, you might just have a look at the Gemeinde website and look at the population numbers. It usually gives you numbers for total population and then a breakdown showing the number of foreigners. This might help give you an idea of how accepted you might be.
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Re: Grellingen- have I lost my mind?

Having been to your place more than once, I'd say move out especially if it saves you both on tax and if going to a much quieter place and safe in the evening / nights. How about Reinach ?
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Thanks guys, yes we are beginning to seriously consider moving and 15 minutes by train is relly nothing. We used to commute 45 mintues each way when we lived in the Netherlands.
SR the place is noisy, I love my appartment but besides paying high rent (which at the beginning was no problem) the noise is sometimes unbearable and I really do not feel like closing the windows with this weather ...
Jrspet= I knew you would agree with me I have seen a couple of places in homegate near Liestal, I will check Laufen as well. I like binningen but Grellingen looks more village to me, as for being accepted ... I think I have made some friends already and will try to keep having a decent social life so not really what is worrying me THANKS!

EDIT: DO you guys know if I will be still able to pay 67 chufs a month for public transport???
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Re: Grellingen- have I lost my mind?

With the tax savings, get a GA ( and one for the spouse ) and no worries for a year - travel to just about anywhere in CH ( boat, tram, train, bus etc. ) including to selected locations across the border, riskless with the ticket inspectors and use the TGV and ICE as often as you want.
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With the tax savings, get a GA ( and one for the spouse ) and no worries for a year - travel to just about anywhere in CH ( boat, tram, train, bus etc. ) including to selected locations across the border, riskless with the ticket inspectors and use the TGV and ICE as often as you want.
Hey that is great so it is 2100 per couple? Awesome! Only 700 CHF of what we pay now (without being able to take other trains)
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Read the website carefully .. the partner GA is CHF2100 - the single GA is CHF3100.
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Read the website carefully .. the partner GA is CHF2100 - the single GA is CHF3100.
Yeah...not worth it for us since we barely travel by train...thanks anyways
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Re: Grellingen- have I lost my mind?

Grellingen is very nice. I pass it often when I'm on my way to the middle of nowhere. The middle of nowhere is very close to Grellingen. If you are planning to drive in any of the rush hour times, watch out. Most people there work in Basel and the small streets leading to the village get clogged up.

That said, I wonder if the village life is really what you are looking for. You happen to live in one of the very noisiest spots of Basel that could be found. There are PLENTY of quiet, sleepy areas of Basel. If you stayed in the city, you would be closer to all the amenities you are accustomed to.
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That said, I wonder if the village life is really what you are looking for.
Actually errr yes LOL The last two year of my life I spent in a small (very religous ) part of the Netherlands and I loved it. Piece and quiet and people so nice. We would use public transport mainly and bikes and maybe if I pass my test my scooter (yaay!)

I just found that they have a population of 1734, 467 being foreigners! Ill be the first Peruvian though http://www.grellingen.ch/portrait/gr...in-zahlen.html
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If you're going to change cantons anyway, I can definitely recommend Rheinfelden and the surrounding areas. Also very close by train, shopping in Germany and LOW taxes
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If you're going to change cantons anyway, I can definitely recommend Rheinfelden and the surrounding areas. Also very close by train, shopping in Germany and LOW taxes
I looked into kanton Aargau as well but commuting time is considerably longer unfortunately!
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Re: Grellingen- have I lost my mind?

Some parts of Aargau are just outside of BS, so don't rule it out.

As for the bus/tram pass, yes - if you buy the monthly pass, it is no problem at all to use it where you're going. It is valid out to as far as Olten, and is also good on the train. So if you go to Zurich, don't forget to take a train that stops in Olten and you only pay for the part of the trip from Olten to Zurich.

Keep in mind that you'll pay more in rent in BL over BS, so make sure the tax savings are worth it before you move and increase your commute substantially.
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Re: Grellingen- have I lost my mind?

Hi there
No opinions on Basel but I just want to chime in that we lived 1.5 years in the middle of a small city. Being new to CH, we were excited because it was an old building (ca 1500) and it was right in the middle of quaint shops and bars. But it got old and we could not sleep at night because of the noise and the street lamp that never gets turn off. We felt like we could never get any privacy or peace and quiet. In the end, we moved to the exact opposite location - by the forest, on top of a hill. It's farther from the train station and walking up the hill is a pain but I would say that it's a nice trade off when your bedroom at night is completely dark and quiet!
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Keep in mind that you'll pay more in rent in BL over BS, so make sure the tax savings are worth it before you move and increase your commute substantially.
That is not always the case as I have been doing some research already. Our plan is to save at least 500 CHF in rent and then get the tax reduction, we could use a smaller place since it is only 2 of us (so far) so no problems there. We are definetely going to think about it and will not rule anything out...
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