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Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

Hi,

We are moving to Lugano in October. Right now we are in the US. Can anyone give me any idea about how far in advance we should try to get an apartment? From looking on homegate, immostreet and comparis it seems like there is a lot available. Is it reasonable to just show up, rent a hotel room for a few days and try to find a place? Or should we contact potential landlords several months in advance to apply and give a deposit?

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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

Did you read:
http://www.englishforum.ch/apartment...ghlight=lugano
http://www.englishforum.ch/apartment...ghlight=lugano
http://www.englishforum.ch/apartment...ghlight=lugano
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

I have read those threads and others. But they didn't really answer my questions. It seems like some people recommend renting a furnished place for a month or two and then finding housing after that. Oh well, it will be fun no matter what happens!
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

the question is likely this then:
are you relocating your belongings and when?

in theory, you should find a place reasonably easily. As you've done some groundwork and see the market from the websites, do you think you need to make a trip over to organise it?

the number of members in the Lugano area isn't so high - but I know there are many English-speakers down there.

Do you speak Italian or German?
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

Thanks for your note,

We are coming for around 2 years and dont plan to bring our belongings with us. Now that I think about it, it probably makes sense to do a vacation rental for a month or two so we can figure out where to buy furniture, kitchen supplies, etc. I read that there are some Ikea stores in Milan - so we know we at least have an affordable option for most things we will need.

I speak a little Italian and my wife speaks a little German. Maybe after a month there we will know enough of the language to successfully get a good apartment. I have seen lots of posts where people have trouble if they only speak English...

So, I think the answer to my question is this: 3 months is too far ahead to worry about this stuff!
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

Surprisingly there are furniture stores in Ticino too. You'll grow to love Ikea in Grancia before long

Furniture-wise, many of the stores over the border are very geared to dealing with Swiss buyers. I actually bought a lot of furniture from Arredo Pu near Varese.

The locals will speak Italian first (naturally ) then you have a toss-up - German (begrudgingly) or French (you'll likely be treated nicer if you choose this) and finally English. Within the service industry, you'll find English should work. Failing that - mezzo di birra is going to be a phrase you'll need
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

When I've moved to Lugano from internal Switzerland I found the apartment where I would have lived for the next two years in about a month, and almost all of the colleagues of mine that have moved with me did the same. I can remember that the ones that had more problems were the married ones

Anyway, I don't think that there is the risk to not be able to find an accommodation at all, rather to have to pay much more than the real value of the apartment, or to find it in a place that is not the one you like (also don't rely too much on public transportation).

Try taking a look at www.homegate.ch
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

Leon - interesting note about public transportation. Can you elaborate? We weren't planning on having a car in Lugano. Definitely bikes and maybe scooters (not sure how much they cost). Everything we have read seems to indicate that transportation is quite good - I assume its just a bus system and then there is regional access through trains or intercity busses...

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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

Right, you have a bus system, that is not really bad, but it only covers the city area (in this case I should say the 'town area', don't expect a big city ). Even though this area has increased in size due to recent aggregations that have lead to the 'Nuova Lugano', there are still a lot of small centers around that are connected via a secondary level bus system (post buses).

I live in a small center around Lugano (6 Km, 5 mins by car when no traffic) and we have 1 bus per hour, and no one at all after 18:00.

I think that working and living in the center of Lugano is nice but it's not very good if you have small children, either you'll have lot of smog, either you'll have traffic noise (or both). If you want a quite place (and maybe even a small garden) without having to pay a lot, you have to look a little around the center.

By the way, my wife is from Zurich, she is used to public transportation there, and she thought we didn't really need to have 2 cars. Last week we had one car in a garage, so we had to share the other one, well .. she was literally going crazy.

Bike is nice, I like riding but can't use it for going work, because at the arrival you are sweat and full of mosquito's in your face, or simply wet when raining.

It could be that you can find a nice house in a well served area, but I believe that for this, you will have to look well, it's not the kind of accommodation that I think can be found in one month.
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

hey i had the same problem when i moved from the US.1) you can not legally sign and give a deposit if your out of the country. you need to sign it in switzerland. 2) you should give yourself some time (at least a week) for paper work and manager to hand over an apartment. they like to pretend to do background checks and see if anyone one else is interested in the apartment...

if you need a place to stay i can rent you, my apartment. it is available for all of august to sept 20th. it has an amazing view of the lake.

because i will be back in the US. let me know.

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where in the US are you from? why are you moving to Lugano
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

my husband's aunt is renting out a fully furnished house. We lived in that house for 6 years until had to move out because of work. View from the bedroom window is great ( not lake view though)....
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

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Hi,

We are moving to Lugano in October. Right now we are in the US. Can anyone give me any idea about how far in advance we should try to get an apartment? From looking on homegate, immostreet and comparis it seems like there is a lot available. Is it reasonable to just show up, rent a hotel room for a few days and try to find a place? Or should we contact potential landlords several months in advance to apply and give a deposit?

Thanks
You may like to take a look at these apartments in this site: http://homepage.bluewin.ch/residenza07
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

Hi Javo and Aurora Borealis,

I am moving to Lugano this August for two years with my girlfriend (we are from Iceland the land of aurora Borealis). I am going to take my master's in USI starting in September.

How large are the apartement and the pricesn if they are still available?

We got an advice that the best thing to do is to get a temporary accomidation while looking for a permanent place to live.

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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

I don't know the exact floor area in sq. m. but it has 2 bedrooms; 1 shower/Wc and 1 bath/wc; a storage area that doubles also a wash and dry area. Kitchen, living/dining area + a mezzanine with another living area with functional fireplace. The rent is between 1200 and 1500. I have not asked my aunt yet.
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Hi Javo and Aurora Borealis,
I am moving to Lugano this August for two years with my girlfriend (we are from Iceland the land of aurora Borealis). I am going to take my master's in USI starting in September.

How large are the apartement and the pricesn if they are still available?

We got an advice that the best thing to do is to get a temporary accomidation while looking for a permanent place to live.
My apartment is a studio. although right now i am not sure if it will be available or not, because some people have showed interest.
i'll let you know as soon as i find out. but its 1,400 per month as its has a view of the lake.

if you want to save money on apartments its best to find a place close to campus they are cheap around there, but the area is not so nice.

its a good idea that you are coming early in august as by september-october all the students are looking for apartments too. im currently taking my masters at USI now, its a good program.

best of luck, let me know if you need anymore help.
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

Hi, Im new to this community. I will be moving to Lugano Aug 8th. I will be working at UNISI as a program manager for a new Masters Degree program that is starting in 2008.

I am moving from New England to Lugano.
thanks for all the posts on the apt search in Lugano.
I have found that the agencies want you to have your paperwork in place before they will rent to you. And they want first last and deposit as well.
Is this pretty standard?

Im looking for a 2 bedroom apt with a view of the lake.
I seem to be finding plenty on the websites and have talked to 3 agencies in person when I was there in early July.

I have to say I have not found that people in the service industry speak English. Most speak Italian and French. Going out to dinner, going to the store I have not found anyone who spoke English. The hotels and touristic places seem to have people who speak English. But I used my French a lot in the two weeks I was last there.

Any suggestions for a good bike shop?

Thank you,

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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

I have 2 apartments that I want to rent. Check them out:
http://homepage.bluewin.ch/residenza07
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

I just moved to Lugano last week from North America. I was living in Canada but working in Boston. During the last week, my partner and I have seen so many apartments and bifamiliar houses. We used the following sources to locate a place:
http://en.comparis.ch/
http://www.homegate.ch/
http://www.lugano-online.ch/e/
http://www.immoscout24.ch/
http://swissinfo.org/eng/index.html
http://www.cerca-trova.ch/homepage.asp
http://www.immo-bekb.ch/
http://www.farsire.com/ch/
http://www.cdt.ch/
http://www.immobiliaregaletti.ch/
I also walked into a few places close to USI and looked at their lists.

What seemed to work well was to inquire about a place and tell them a lot about us (including our work situation and that we have a dog) and what we were looking for. Several companies got back to us with apartment options that were not on their web site.

We made appointments with them and viewed 6 places before finding the perfect flat to rent. Now, I am still getting repsonses from folks telling me they will show me another property.

We sign the lease later this week. So, I say it takes at least 2 weeks from start to finish to secure a place here. Mind you, we spent many hours the 1st week looking at classified online and off and visiting houses before making the appointments. I recommend that you have a car (rent one) so you can get a feel for the locaion of places. What seems far on the map can actually be close (10 minutes from USI) if the traffic is tame. Some roads are very hectic and some are calm.

One thing we learned about property owners here: just like the US, some are amazing and make you want to rent from them so bad because they are so nice & others are just like you find in the US (high pressure and demanding (ex: you better sign now because others want this place). We found so many places to rent that decided to discount any property from a high pressure person right away. The guy we rented from is awesome and very accomodating.

Also, I've already found numerous bike shops right downtown. Cycling is awesome here and bikes are everywhere. You will have no problem in this area.
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I have found that the agencies want you to have your paperwork in place before they will rent to you. And they want first last and deposit as well.
Is this pretty standard?

Im looking for a 2 bedroom apt with a view of the lake.

I have to say I have not found that people in the service industry speak English.
Its pretty standard that landlords ask for the full amount allowed for the deposit,which i think is 3months rent.

ive been looking for apartments with a lake view too. but they are very hard to comeby and much more expensive. best bet is to subrent one. also if you dont have a car you can rent out your parking space for some extra cash.

i have to say many "local" people in lugano do speak english, but dont want to, they are just rude. also alot of people lie about it. but there is a huge english speaking community in lugano, so i dont think it should be any problem for you.
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Re: Apartment in Lugano - how far ahead should I worry?

one more good tip on finding housing in Lugano...

Pick up a paper copy of cerca e trova. It's a small paper w/ tons of classifieds (like the penny saver/auto trader magazine in North America). It's 4 CHF and worth it. We just got one at the Shell gas station a short walk from USI. It has far more options than are in the online version (www.cerca-trova.ch) and will help you learn Italian.

It also has listings for nthings like scooters, motorcycles, bicycles, vacation rentals, and services.
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