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carloncha 02.09.2010 09:39

Swiss regulations concerning Bidet shower installation
 
Hi all, we are renovating our bathroom and I we decided , in order to safe space, to install a bidet shower next to the toilet.

I am aware of the details and safety point for the installation but ...I just hear that this is not allowed in Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a surprise !!

So, I have email the SVGW and I am awaiting answer. I still wanted to come to here and ask, as I have always get great help from the forum.

Is there anybody that knows about this??
I will be very happy if this is not true as I found it to be to much on regulation in Switzerland !!:msnmad:

thanks

runningdeer 02.09.2010 12:13

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
Sorry, not sure I am following your question. But are you asking if a bidet, ie. typcial french bidet, is allowed in Switzerland? (not sure if a 'bidet shower' as you refer is something else)

If so, I would say yes they are here and must be allowed, as there is one in our house.

Possibly you would need to go through the usual authorisations and permissions with the commune though. Perhaps your commune has additional regulations or concerns about them.

Tom1234 02.09.2010 12:41

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
It may be something to do with the fact that you could drop the shower head into the toilet bowl thus allowing polluted water to enter the clean water system via the shower head.

In the U.K., a shower over a bath needs a retaining clip to prevent the shower head from being lowered into the bath - for a similar reason.

I think you can get round it in the U.K.with an anti-siphoning valve.

Not sure what the rules are here though! :)

Castro 02.09.2010 12:51

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 929519)
It may be something to do with the fact that you could drop the shower head into the toilet bowl thus allowing polluted water to enter the clean water system via the shower head.

How would that happen if the clean water is arriving under positive pressure? :msnsarcastic:

Tom1234 02.09.2010 13:42

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Castro (Post 929537)
How would that happen if the clean water is arriving under positive pressure? :msnsarcastic:

It's siphoning :msnsarcastic:

If, for example, your shower-head is in your toilet and then someone opened all the other taps in the house (or somewhere else in the water system), foul water from the toilet bowl could be siphoned into the clean water system via the shower-head.

Edit - more realistic reason:

Actually, it would probably need a large drop in main water pressure for this to happen. Another pipe splitting could do this. (freeze and thaw perhaps?).

Carlos R 02.09.2010 13:44

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianlondon (Post 929500)
...At least, that's how it looks in my mind.

:msnshock:

<puts sandwich down>

Thanks Adrian

:msnsarcastic:

Tom1234 02.09.2010 13:56

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
Cleaner than using a piece of loo-paper.

You don't wash the dirty dishes by wiping them with a bit of paper-towel, do you?

Very common in some countries.

FabrizioM 02.09.2010 13:59

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianlondon (Post 929500)
...At least, that's how it looks in my mind.

And I always thought that the wall paper in our bathroom was woodchip

Our friends have one of those things but I have never asked them about it just case they answer me :eek:

carloncha 02.09.2010 14:12

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
OH my goodness!!

thanks to all for your commentaries . But still do not get the info. Just to make things more clear. I bidet shower is not a bidet, it is a shower that you install near to the toilet seat. And yes!!! for some people, just toilet paper is not enough!! It is not the point to discuss , I think. Please, if you do not have info about he regulation on this point, keep your opinion about each person cleaning habits to yourself.
Thanks a lot to the ones that support good info. I am aware about the rules in the UK, I got the bidet shower over there, thanks for the info anyway.
I have already contact the saler and they said they have already sales other to Switzerland, but I wanted to be sure.

here is a link for the people that only used toilet paper:)))
http://www.bidet-shower.co.uk/

I am sorry for the one that couldn't finish his sandwich!! :)))

carloncha 02.09.2010 14:16

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
hahahahahahahahahah



Quote:

Originally Posted by FabrizioM (Post 929662)
And I always thought that the wall paper in our bathroom was woodchip

Our friends have one of those things but I have never asked them about it just case they answer me :eek:


Carlos R 02.09.2010 14:17

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
All that confusion over terminology.

The Yorkshire in me is wondering why they don't just call it an "arse shower"?

That's a rhetorical question by the way...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 929657)
Cleaner than using a piece of loo-paper.

You don't wash the dirty dishes by wiping them with a bit of paper-towel, do you?

Very common in some countries.

I am fully aware that different countries have different habits. I was not commenting on the appropriateness of such a device at all. Simply Adrian's lunchtime description.*

*If this post wasn't directed at me, feel free to ignore...

carloncha 02.09.2010 14:19

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
As I said.....not the point, but thanks for stop by.

FabrizioM 02.09.2010 14:20

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos R (Post 929701)
All that confusion over terminology.

The Yorkshire in me is wondering why they don't just call it an "arse shower"?

That's a rhetorical question by the way...

Well you can't deny that arse shower has a ring to it

Carlos R 02.09.2010 14:25

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carloncha (Post 929705)
As I said.....not the point, but thanks for stop by.

De nada.

Clearly, this is a sensitive topic for you, and you have no sense of humour.

Groan button bottom right (but you know that already), rep top right.

HTH

NotAllThere 02.09.2010 14:28

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
Surely it'd be "Th' arse shower". ( I'm also a Yorkshireman ).

Anyway, I've definitely seen shower heads of the type in your link on sale in Jumbo. You could always get it fitted far enough from the toilet to be permitted, and then add a longer hose...

Carlos R 02.09.2010 14:31

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAllThere (Post 929716)
Surely it'd be "Th' arse shower"

Absolutely - I was translating for our southern cousins. ;)

02.09.2010 14:35

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
I think you mean a shower-toilet and not a Bidet shower.

Well I had a funny surprise when using the disabled toilet in Swisscom. I was sitting down and made a halfway flush as there was a bit of a smell: to my big surprise a tube with a fountain came out of the porcelain and began to shower my bottom clean. It then retracted, just like this,



So this type of shower toilet is approved. I inspected it carefully, and the tube only comes out when sitting down.

jrspet 02.09.2010 14:38

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
Until the OP gave the link, I had thought it was like it appears on this video:



Mistakes can occur :D

marton 02.09.2010 14:55

Re: Swiss reglamentation about Bidet shower
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 929627)
It's siphoning :msnsarcastic:

If, for example, your shower-head is in your toilet and then someone opened all the other taps in the house (or somewhere else in the water system), foul water from the toilet bowl could be siphoned into the clean water system via the shower-head.

Edit - more realistic reason:

Actually, it would probably need a large drop in main water pressure for this to happen. Another pipe splitting could do this. (freeze and thaw perhaps?).

But how would the siphoning work when the shower tap is turned off? :confused:
& if the shower is not turned off then the water pressure would stop siphoning.
& if you had a split pipe then that would be a possible unclean source

carloncha 02.09.2010 15:03

Re: Swiss reglementation about Bidet shower
 
OF course, I found this all very funny, and it is not a sensitive topic to me, silly! It is a sensitive area but not a sensitive topic!:)
But I can see this is a funny chat without much of the results. I need to get the regulation about it. Never mind , I am laughing a lot with the videos.

Whatever the name, is it allowed or not in Switzerland??

thanks and thanks for the videos!

great staff!


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