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Old 05.09.2010, 19:44
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Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

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Hopefully an easy one. On some Swiss apartment rental applications it asks for "Konf". It's in the general personal info bit where they are asking for addresses, nationality etc. These are German language forms BTW.

I did a search here but no luck.

Anyone able to tell me what they are asking for?


Also, is there a good online guide to translating these types of forms? I'm figuring them out but even if I can translate a word it's sometimes hard to interpret what they mean without the cultural context.
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

Konf. sounds like it's short for Konfession, or religion. But I'm surprised to hear of an apartment rental agency wanting to know religion of a potential tenant.
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Old 05.09.2010, 19:53
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

blimey that sounds probable but also uncomfortable. It fits with the flow of the form at least. Thanks.
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Hi,

Hopefully an easy one. On some Swiss apartment rental applications it asks for "Konf". It's in the general personal info bit where they are asking for addresses, nationality etc. These are German language forms BTW.

I did a search here but no luck.

Anyone able to tell me what they are asking for?


Also, is there a good online guide to translating these types of forms? I'm figuring them out but even if I can translate a word it's sometimes hard to interpret what they mean without the cultural context.
It relates to religion and the German word Konfession. Hope my lack of religion isn't what is stopping me from getting a place!
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

If I leave it blank are they likely to regard that as suspicious?

If I put "none" ("Keiner"?) are they likely to judge me badly?
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If I leave it blank are they likely to regard that as suspicious?

If I put "none" ("Keiner"?) are they likely to judge me badly?
Keine (no r) or Konfessionslos would be what I suggest.

I put Keine.

I would not expect this to be an issue, but I am actually yet to get an appartment after numerous applications (they are applications for central Zurich so it is kind of half expected anyway).

Perhaps someone else might have had experience of this being a positive or negative on their applications - no one has rejected my application and said it is because i am not religious.
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

I am religious but I've actually just been putting a big line through this on my applications (both rental and employment work forms). In North America, this information is something we would never ask. So I was just stubburn and refused to answer it.

It seemed to be ok for my rental application, as they accepted. And at work, when I asked them about it, they just responded "Ignore that. You're from Canada, we know you don't ask those types of questions there..."
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

I have never seen a rental form asking this question. Perhaps in Kanton Aargau we are more discreet.

The HEV application form does not ask this question. I imagine the form you have is one that someone has created.
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

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If I leave it blank are they likely to regard that as suspicious?

If I put "none" ("Keiner"?) are they likely to judge me badly?
If you leave it blank, it might! Some people are very touchy about their religion, just as about their political party and their association they are in. But you might not want those people as your land lords. So do it as you feel comfortable. It is better that to enter a "wrong" religion :-)
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

Definitely short for Konfession (ie. religion). I had a bit of a frantic flat hunting spree last summer and saw it on application forms a couple of times. From what I remember you could leave it blank or just write "keine".
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

The Religion is relevant when you register at the Gemeinde because you will be taxed accordingly.

I don't know if it makes a difference with the rent.

put "Zoroastrian" on it
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The Religion is relevant when you register at the Gemeinde because you will be taxed accordingly.

I don't know if it makes a difference with the rent.

put "Zoroastrian" on it
I was allowed to put down "keine" when I registered at Rüti Gemeinde. Although this may have something to do with my terrible German accent and them just wanting me to leave as soon as possible
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

According to this site,

Datenschutz Mietwohnung Formular

it's only acceptable to ask this form of question of the agency has a special reason (if they have to by law and others). The same for Nationality. It's only legal to ask if you are Swiss or not.
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

I wonder if reading them the law will help get my applications accepted, lol. Thanks for the clarification though.


Next up... what does Heimatort/bewilligung mean? Literally it means "home/authorisation", but what does that mean in context?

Also, if it just asks "Heimatort" I've been putting the city where I most recently lived abroad before moving here - is that correct?
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Re: Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?

Heimatort - city / town of your birth

Bewilligung - Auslander ausweiss B / C / F / G etc. ie your migration permit
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