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Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Hello all,

My wife & I are trying to decide if we should accept job offers (one in Zurich, other in Basel), and up sticks from the UK. We would need to live near Basel & its international school. (2 spogs - 2.5yrs & 5.5yrs).

I have LOTS of questions, but I'll use different posts, topic by topic.

Right now I have been trawling the property websites - as listed in these forums - for rental properties. There isn't much that fits the bill. What am I missing here? I want 4 bedrooms, plus either a 5th bedroom or nanny flat/annexe, own garden, and away from a main road. I can't find a single example of this in the area.

It seems that the typical model for a small family would be a 3 bed, 2 bath appartment with shared garden. What do all our American friends do if they're moving from a family house in the US - they tend to be much larger there?

I am visiting Basel on a guided tour of homes & ISB school & what not, this weekend. Organised by prospective employer to 'sell' the area to us. Hopefully I'll know more next week, but I'd really appreciate any local knowledge / guidance so I can limit the number of stupid questions I might otherwise ask...

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PS Where do i post Q's re cars?!
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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Hi and thank you for reading what's available on the forum before posting questions. You can post questions about cars in the http://www.englishforum.ch/transportation-driving/ area. If you are looking to buy or sell a car, use the http://www.englishforum.ch/sale-wanted/ area.

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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Thanks, Gooner. I'll take a look through the links. (I realised the car forum existed about 5 seconds after posting - & of course edits aren't allowed. How very Swiss.)

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We would need to live near Basel & its international school. (2 spogs - 2.5yrs & 5.5yrs).

There are international schools in Zurich too .

But seriously, consider the Swiss school system - your children get a language for free! Oh, and you save about 40K a year. And there's more savings: private school Ski week = 650 CHF, Swiss school ski week = 150 CHF - same ski resort, same instructors.

Search the forums for schooling.
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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Yup, there is an Int school in Zurich, but we really do need to live close to Basel. Luckily, prospective employer will cough up for school fees .

Interesting point re public schools & ski schools though. Def. food for thought.

Thanks

Does anyone have thoughts on why i can't seem to find rental properties bigger than, say 250/300 sq. m?

J
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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Generally the Swiss model is mother father and two children, so three bedrooms are enough!! We had to live 40 mins outside of Zurich to accommodate our family of 6 and we managed to find an old farmhouse in the country at a price of a two / three bed flat in Zurich. Try thinking out of the box and remember public transport is generally good here.

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PS Finding a house with a decent garden is my challenge!!
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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Andy,

Thank you for explaining. I did wonder how far out we would need to be to find somewhere! Looks like I'll have to widen the net a bit.

Cheers,

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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

You only have to move as far as Binningen. Binningen & Bottmingen are very nice areas and only minutes away from 'town'.
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Andy,

Thank you for explaining. I did wonder how far out we would need to be to find somewhere! Looks like I'll have to widen the net a bit.

Cheers,

J
Basic tip, but I have found Google Maps to be great for getting orientation ... another tip choose your village & search on Comparis or Homegate on that, adding your criteria .... good luck
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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Thanks, Polorise - I'm already a big fan of Google maps. 'Flying' over places & generally being nosey! It helps to know if I'd be living next to a factory too...
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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

The International School in Basel will be in Reinach. It is easily accessible from many areas. I would recommend living in Basel land as the tax is a bit cheaper.
Areas such as Allschwil and Binningen are easy to get access to Train station to get to Zürich. The trans are really regular, but be aware that it is expensive. The General Abo is recommended.
The ISB (international school) is a good way to integrate in to the local community. My friends kids seem to enjoy it at the School. I recommend living here, I fell in love with Switzerland and have never regretted it.

When you look for properties you will be lucky to find one with a large garden, but they do exist, although the gardens are usually shared.
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The International School in Basel will be in Reinach. It is easily accessible from many areas. I would recommend living in Basel land as the tax is a bit cheaper.
Areas such as Allschwil and Binningen are easy to get access to Train station to get to Zürich. The trans are really regular, but be aware that it is expensive. The General Abo is recommended.
The ISB (international school) is a good way to integrate in to the local community. My friends kids seem to enjoy it at the School. I recommend living here, I fell in love with Switzerland and have never regretted it.

When you look for properties you will be lucky to find one with a large garden, but they do exist, although the gardens are usually shared.
I agree about living in Basel land, however, the school your at least on of your children will go to will actually be based in Aesch. The new site will house the younger children, whilst the Rienach site will have the older ones. I am not sure anout the pre-school ages but I have a feeling they will also be in Reinach. If that is the case you will need to travel to both sites. (they are both on the no.11 tram though) HTH
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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Thanks again for the advice. I had heard about the pre-school being moved (closer to France) and so my visit this weekend will likely include a building site drive-by!

Shared gardens... should I leave my garden furniture and BBQ in the UK then?

JC
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Shared gardens... should I leave my garden furniture and BBQ in the UK then?
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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

ohhh. i am looking since a while for houses in BL and what I find is a lot of big houses with gardens and up to 6 rooms. so there should not be a problem for you to find one in BL. I would not reccomend Allschwil, because of the noise with the airplanes at all the times.
good luck with your search and if you see one nice big house with 2 rooms only let me know
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Hi Jerome

We found when we moved from the UK that finding a house with a garden was tricky. It's a very illiquid market, both for rentals as well as purchase.

We found a lovely home to rent, luckily rather quickly- we wanted to move quickly into somewhere permanent rather than stay in the company provided temporary accomodation, which was fine, but.... temporary.

Everyone I know here has found somewhere decent to live - we are 'in Town', but many folks choose 'the countryside' (Basel Land, where there are lots of nice communities too) instead, or over the border in FR/DE.

Be prepared to compromise and choose from the limitted options you will likely find on offer - oh, and contracts tend to be longer than in UK... but you'll find something.... Just don't be disheartened by any dodgy appartments you might get shown on a weekend visit!

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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

We are flying out early in October for 4 days and hope to secure a Familly property for mid-November moove-in! Are we being realistic?

We have 2 young boys (2 & 4yrs)and a dog and would prefer a house with garden, prob in the Basel Land area. What are the road/rail connections like into Basel?

Does anyone know of any English speaking agents that specialise in Basel Land? What kind of rental prices should we expect? Also, is there a 6month min contract or should we be thinking more 12month?

We are enthusiastic but wet behind the ears here. Any help much appreciated. Cheers,

Eugene & Emma
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Hi,

Larger properties tend to move fast. If you see something you like, even if it doesn't tick all the boxes, you should seriously consider committing to it. This time of year is not peak season, so there are fewer properties on the market.

You will also find that tenancy agreements are longer than in the UK. The larger the property the longer the lease, and this can be 3-5 years! One difference is that if you sign a lease, for say 3 years, and decide you want to move out after one year all you need to do is find another tenant that a) wants the property and b) is able to pay the rental. The landlord is obliged to sub-let in this way and the financial risk passes to the landlord. (Any one can correct me if I'm wrong here!)

With a dog you will almost certainly struggle to find anything in town (unless you have one of those tiny yappy types that lives in a handbag...) with a suitable garden. You will have heard before that the public transport is great. Just try to fin areas that are served by trams going directly into town, and with a tram stop as close to you property as you can manage. (Imagine walking back in the rain, etc)

Hope this helps,

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We are flying out early in October for 4 days and hope to secure a Familly property for mid-November moove-in! Are we being realistic?

We have 2 young boys (2 & 4yrs)and a dog and would prefer a house with garden, prob in the Basel Land area. What are the road/rail connections like into Basel?

Does anyone know of any English speaking agents that specialise in Basel Land? What kind of rental prices should we expect? Also, is there a 6month min contract or should we be thinking more 12month?

We are enthusiastic but wet behind the ears here. Any help much appreciated. Cheers,

Eugene & Emma
Public transport is generally excellent, and with GA or even half-tax abo not scarily expensive. We live in Allschwil and are not terribly bothered by plane noise (it is only in peak holiday season it is all the time), and my wifes 1.5km to work makes up for some. Binningen may be a better bet for the size of house you hope to find.

Alternatively, you could consider moving a bit further away. One of her colleagues lives in Delémont in canton Jura, that is 40 minutes.

We used Netwok Relocation first time we were here, quite efficient but costs money. Consider getting them paid though a relocation package.

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Re: Moving from UK to Basel (BL)... limited options?

Hi

Your kids are young enough to adapt well and really benefit from the language experience in the local schools. I've moved here with older children ( oldest two are 15 and 11). For us the international school was a must. Finding a big apartment is next to impossible. Go to homegate.ch and check out how few 6.0 room or above places are available. As you suggested, moving here from the US is a shock in terms of lack of space. I suppose people here just do not have big families. My suggestion. . .if you find a big apartment, snap it up. They are rare.

Good luck with your move!
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