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08.05.2011, 22:58
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I have interesting question : once you cancell your car insurance what happens if you don't take new one ?
My understanding is that you are covered by old one until SVT change in papers of car however you are only covered in basic (what is required) and no more additional insurances you had.
Question is raised as practice of All..nz is to send letters with 10days backdate - and not to confirm should insurance cancellation be accepted or not - than they claim full amount on all insurances you have had from time you sent your insurance cancellation until you re-registered car to new insurance.
needless to day should you not know that cancellation is accepted and what are legel response times you wouldn't go for other insurance as you brench contaract with first one ...
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09.05.2011, 00:29
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| | Re: Car insurance cancellation and insturance refusal | Quote: | |  | | | I have interesting question : once you cancell your car insurance what happens if you don't take new one ?
My understanding is that you are covered by old one until SVT change in papers of car however you are only covered in basic (what is required) and no more additional insurances you had.
Question is raised as practice of All..nz is to send letters with 10days backdate - and not to confirm should insurance cancellation be accepted or not - than they claim full amount on all insurances you have had from time you sent your insurance cancellation until you re-registered car to new insurance.
needless to day should you not know that cancellation is accepted and what are legel response times you wouldn't go for other insurance as you brench contaract with first one ...
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Are you trying to cancel an existing policy? If so on what grounds? Then are you trying to maintain a car without a cover policy?
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11.05.2011, 11:06
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| | Re: Car insurance cancellation and insurance refusal
Well - policy cancelation was on ground of an accident and it's handling by insurance .
What I noticed is 1. my cancellation was accepted however never got any confirmation of it neither by phone , email nor mail ..
in meantime I got series of mails with request to pay policy fee every week or so .. making me assume it wasn't cancelled. Each time I called , they couldn't find cancellation , since it was registered mail finally it was found but was told ... by now I should have changed already and not it's too late ..
so insurance company claims that since I haven't changed to new insurance they try to say I have this way agreed to continue my policy with them at new terms which ofcourse wasn't the case.
So there is two quesions here:
Is this the case that you cancel policy (hapfliht and full-casco) however insurance never confimed that thy agree and what's the termination data - does insruance has right to claim that since you haven't changed , you agree to continue current policy or I have continue ?
2) since insurance claim is back-dated I believe should my car got stolen during that time - they would claim contract was cancelled and I have no legal contract with them , while now of course when risk is 0 , they try to get just money ?
3) when I cancell obligatory and full-casco , while not going to SVT with new insurance company to change papers (I woudn't until it's confirmed by former insurance ) are both policies still in place or only mandatory one (so not full casco) and as such insurance is attempting fraud here ?
Thanks in advance
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11.05.2011, 11:15
| | Re: Car insurance cancellation and insurance refusal Very important! Your insurance is only cancelled when you hand the metal car number plates into the Cantonal traffic office!
(for Zurich: http://www.stva.zh.ch/internet/siche...s/KSdepot.html ).
Car insurance Policies are often running for 7 years or more! At the end of the year you will receive a refund of the money remaining from your insurance company. You cannot simply cancel by writing them a letter, you have a 7 year contract. Tell the new company you have made a mistake!
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17.05.2011, 11:36
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| | Re: Car insurance cancellation and insurance refusal | Quote: | |  | | | Very important! Your insurance is only cancelled when you hand the metal car number plates into the Cantonal traffic office!
(for Zurich: http://www.stva.zh.ch/internet/siche...s/KSdepot.html ).
Car insurance Policies are often running for 7 years or more! At the end of the year you will receive a refund of the money remaining from your insurance company. You cannot simply cancel by writing them a letter, you have a 7 year contract. Tell the new company you have made a mistake! | | | | |
Unless you are changing car and insurance company. As long as you cancel the Ausweis, you are fine. I know, we just did this today  .
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17.05.2011, 15:57
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| | Re: Car insurance cancellation and insurance refusal | Quote: | |  | | | Very important! Your insurance is only cancelled when you hand the metal car number plates into the Cantonal traffic office!
(for Zurich: http://www.stva.zh.ch/internet/siche...s/KSdepot.html ).
Car insurance Policies are often running for 7 years or more! At the end of the year you will receive a refund of the money remaining from your insurance company. You cannot simply cancel by writing them a letter, you have a 7 year contract. Tell the new company you have made a mistake! | | | | | Of course you can change insurance companies. What you can't do is what the OP is trying to do NOT have any insurance at all. His company won't cancel as he hasn't provided proof of a new policy with a new company and he hasn't provided proof he turned in his plates.
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17.05.2011, 16:05
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| | Re: Car insurance cancellation and insurance refusal
One thing I'm not sure of though; we have sold our old car, cancelled the Ausweis and the old insurance, and have agreed, but not signed yet, a new insurance policy. If we haven't signed the new contract by the time our new car will be delivered, will this cause a problem?
According to the Office de Circulation website (from what I understand), all they require is an "attestation" from the new insurance, valid for 30 days. I take this to mean we can pick up the car, with the policy agreed in principle, and have 30 days to sign the policy. Have I read this right? Seems a bit naive, but our insurance always sorted out these details, but we binned them for being way too bloody expensive (but awfully friendly though), so we're having to do this bit ourselves for once.
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17.05.2011, 16:37
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| | Re: Car insurance cancellation and insurance refusal | Quote: | |  | | | One thing I'm not sure of though; we have sold our old car, cancelled the Ausweis and the old insurance, and have agreed, but not signed yet, a new insurance policy. If we haven't signed the new contract by the time our new car will be delivered, will this cause a problem? | | | | | No. | Quote: |  | | | According to the Office de Circulation website (from what I understand), all they require is an "attestation" from the new insurance, valid for 30 days. I take this to mean we can pick up the car, with the policy agreed in principle, and have 30 days to sign the policy. Have I read this right? | | | | | Yes. Also, nowadays it is transferred electronically, so you don't even need to stop by the insurance guy to pick it up (just make sure that they have transferred it).
In fact, I phoned up my agent today to have him do that so that I can pick up the plate for my other two bikes tomorrow. Meanwhile, I will meet him later this week to sign the papers.
Tom
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22.05.2011, 20:55
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| | Re: Car insurance cancellation and insurance refusal
Let me a bit explain situation.
You already send cancellation and it was accepted.
You had required car insurance plus additional insurances
Now - at the time when insurance should be cancelled - you do not change papers are SVT.
Of course you need to have mandatory car insurance however you are not obligated to have additional insurances.
So at the data when cancellation was accepted with data 01.march.11 let's say - however I have not changed at SVT until 1.may.2011 - do I have both insurances or just required since my cancellation date already passed and both parts of insurance should have been cancelled ?
In other words should I have accident and drive over street lights - would I still be covered (since it's my fault - it wouldn't fall under basic insurance) or rather insurance company would say "no , sorry - you are on you own - yes, we had to covery your SVT mandatory insurance since you haven't changed papers however nothing on top of it" ... ?
Thanks
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