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OK then bite the bullet. I could bring some back for the OP in December.
Bring what? The car on a trailer to the UK or some LHD headlights that likely will be sourced from Ebay.de?
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Re: Car Insurance for UK Car in Ch

Hello All!

Update for you:

Spoken to BMW Munich - no facility to change the lights from RHD to LHD as complete LED unit needs changing, as well as wiring to computer and LED panel etc etc.. BMW Switzerland have also looked at it - they cannot guarantee lights would even work but cost of trying to get this sorted would be >6000CHF. BMW in Germany would not even look into - too difficult
To do. So headlight change is not an option.

Car needs importing back to UK. Either on trailer (circa 1500-800 cost) have been informed by two dealers that no import duty or taxes due as UK owner and no VAT relief claimed.

Plan to give car to family and reregister car with DVLA. Informed should be very straightforward. Just needs MOT and some customs paperwork as formality.

Thinking about swapping cars with family member, and getting UK green insurance card to cover insurance for the 12 month period of the new car (would this be ok or would we need to change ownership of the family members car into our own name?) this is all to avoid buying a second hand car in Switzerland as no money to do this until our BMW is sold in UK. So we would drive Family members car from Uk to CH and keep for 12 months. Seems easier just to use family members car and sort Insurance out appropriately..

Hope that all makes sense! Any thoughts welcomed!
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Hello All!

Update for you:

Spoken to BMW Munich - no facility to change the lights from RHD to LHD as complete LED unit needs changing, as well as wiring to computer and LED panel etc etc.. BMW Switzerland have also looked at it - they cannot guarantee lights would even work but cost of trying to get this sorted would be >6000CHF. BMW in Germany would not even look into - too difficult
To do. So headlight change is not an option.
Sounds like they are taking the P... I ordered some new LHD headlights off Ebay.de installed them myself to a Jaguar, job done in under an hour. You just need the correct part number.

Wiring to computer? Sounds fishy it's normally a standard plug or two undone with a screwdriver.

Surely it's the same plug ends regardless of LHD/RHD I guess it's used to check is the light working warning? What else could that connection do?
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Check if it is a LHD/RHD light in a LHD/RHD vehicle, a DOT/ECE light in DOT/ECE vehicle, check if it is "genuine" BMW .

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Thinking about swapping cars with family member, and getting UK green insurance card to cover insurance for the 12 month period of the new car (would this be ok or would we need to change ownership of the family members car into our own name?) this is all to avoid buying a second hand car in Switzerland as no money to do this until our BMW is sold in UK. So we would drive Family members car from Uk to CH and keep for 12 months. Seems easier just to use family members car and sort Insurance out appropriately..
As you are now a Swiss resident you can no longer simply cross the border with valuable goods like a tourist without clearing some formalities.

What you intend to do might not be possible.

https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...ts--etc--.html

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Re: Car Insurance for UK Car in Ch

As far as I know, if you are resident in Switzerland you will eventually have to take out Swiss third-party liability insurance. The requirements for third-party liability insurance are dictated by law. But I could be wrong. Have you actually used Stuart Collins long-term as a resident?
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As far as I know, if you are resident in Switzerland you will eventually have to take out Swiss third-party liability insurance.
The grace period can be as low as 1 month but is not longer than 12 months.
Art. 115 VZV https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ndex.html#a115

Swiss third-party liability insurance means Swiss license plates, and Swiss license plates means the car must be according the Swiss regulations and pass the MFK.
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Thinking about swapping cars with family member, and getting UK green insurance card to cover insurance for the 12 month period of the new car (would this be ok or would we need to change ownership of the family members car into our own name?) this is all to avoid buying a second hand car in Switzerland as no money to do this until our BMW is sold in UK. So we would drive Family members car from Uk to CH and keep for 12 months. Seems easier just to use family members car and sort Insurance out appropriately..

Hope that all makes sense! Any thoughts welcomed!
Won't work.

Generally, Swiss residents can't drive foreign-plated cars in Switzerland they don't own (a few exceptions apply, none of which comes even remotely close to your situation). Importing a car you don't own will probably cost you the full ordinary amount of fees and taxes, and it'll have to pass MFK to be usable.

If you own the car but haven't owned it for more than six months before you immigrated, you'll probably also have to pay the full ordinary amount. Backdating the contract may turn out costly if somebody takes a closer look, assuming it's accepted in the first place - authorities can probably check who it was registered to in the past.
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Re: Car Insurance for UK Car in Ch

Call DVLA and tell them you made a mistake? You may be able to re-register the car from here.


For the headlamp is it that the main "bulb" is LED? For my xenons I "simply" took the units apart and reversed the cut-off shields that give the pattern. There was a factory option to set the beam to flat but I was led to believe that wouldn't be sufficient for Swiss registration. When it was tested they just briefly checked the beam pattern and didn't look for any markings.
I also had to put the second rear fog lamp into operation. If you don't have a dummy LHD fog lamp you might also need at least one new rear lamp.
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Check if it is a LHD/RHD light in a LHD/RHD vehicle, a DOT/ECE light in DOT/ECE vehicle, check if it is "genuine" BMW .
There is something to it after all, there is a tourist mode supposedly in the menu for the car? Which allows the lights to change.

+ this may be of interest. (hacking the firmware) Follow the German guys setting in post #2 obviously I'd write down the initial settings first.

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24763316
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