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Has anyone got accurate current info. The UK has signed reciprocal treaties with CH- but how would UK visitors to CH, access emergency healthcare here if and when EHIC cards/cover no longer valid? Just present passport at doctor's or Hospital/A&E?
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They'd need insurance, like any other non-EU visitor.
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Old 11.11.2019, 22:10
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Do you have an actual official link to that?

The reciprocal treaties signed are supposed to protect reciprocal healthcare.
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Do you have an actual official link to that?

The reciprocal treaties signed are supposed to protect reciprocal healthcare.
Tell that to the hospital receptionist at 2am when your guest is struggling to breathe.

Is it really worth the risk just to save a few bob?
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Tell that to the hospital receptionist at 2am when your guest is struggling to breathe.

Is it really worth the risk just to save a few bob?
I expect DB is right. UK citizens coming as tourists will be treated the same as all others, Switzerland can't have a different agreement to other Schengen members.
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Not at all about saving a few quid.

If you have older friends and family with pre-existing conditions- it is unlikely they will be able to get cover. Meaning that they won't be able to visit us, or you for that matter.
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Not at all. If you have older friends and family with pre-existing conditions- it is unlikely they will be able to get cover. Meaning that they won't be able to visit us, or you for that matter.
Why would your friends and family want to visit me?
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Not at all about saving a few quid.

If you have older friends and family with pre-existing conditions- it is unlikely they will be able to get cover. Meaning that they won't be able to visit us, or you for that matter.
There are some specialist insurance companies in the uk that cover elderly people and their conditions. Itís not cheap but itís always pricey covering higher risks. They just have to factor it into the price of the trip.
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Yes, of course. But some conditions will be impossible to cover, possibly- or prohibitively so. Which, for many, will mean no more visits. Does not apply to us personally, as such, right now.
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Yes, of course. But some conditions will be impossible to cover, possibly- or prohibitively so. Which, for many, will mean no more visits. Does not apply to us personally, as such, right now.
Is this a roundabout way of confessing that you never got round to signing up for Swiss health insurance?
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No, we don't need Swiss Health Insurance. We are covered by Form S1- thanks. We were hugely worried that would not continue- but the agreements signed between UK and CH now garantee this. We are also entitled to treatment in the UK.

My mother was in her late 80s, blind, in a wheel-chair, when she last visited us in the UK, for daughter's wedding. We didn't have to worry about insurance- as we knew she would be looked after. Same for my best friend, who visited a few weeks before she died of pancreatic cancer. It was her dream to visit one last time. Same again.

I can imagine there are many UK expats here who have older parents with pre-exisiting conditions- who were previously covered by EHIC - and who would not be able to get cover due to complicated pre-existing conditions. Some parents may be fine now- but as years roll on- this might change.
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Old 11.11.2019, 23:03
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Moneysupermarket does a good over 80 insurance comparison. My grandmother got insurance many times over 80 and she has a lot of pre-existing stuff.
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Why would your friends and family want to visit me?
Because you are a nice boy, suave and sophisticated maybe ?
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I can imagine there are many UK expats here who have older parents with pre-exisiting conditions- who were previously covered by EHIC - and who would not be able to get cover due to complicated pre-existing conditions. Some parents may be fine now- but as years roll on- this might change.
Every cloud, eh?

Anyway, several people have now explained that insurance is available to the ancient and decrepit, so you can put those pearls down and relax now.
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Because you are a nice boy, suave and sophisticated maybe ?
His last post seems to indicate, not. QED.
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Re: healthcare for British visitors to CH

Itís also worth remembering that a UK tourist travelling over land will be subject to that authority of the first Schengen country they enter and not Switzerland. They will be the ones to decide if a tourist has sufficient funds and medical insurance etc for their stay.
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Has anyone got accurate current info. The UK has signed reciprocal treaties with CH- but how would UK visitors to CH, access emergency healthcare here if and when EHIC cards/cover no longer valid? Just present passport at doctor's or Hospital/A&E?
In the longer term -nobody knows - how could they? Nothing has been decided.

Short-term - until the U.K. leaves the EU, and for visits to Switzerland that start before the U.K. leaves:


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Update on Reciprocal Healthcare Arrangements for Brexit:Written statement - HCWS1832

26 September 2019

The UK has reached an agreement with the Swiss Confederation to ensure that the rights of UK nationals living in Switzerland and Swiss nationals living in the UK are preserved in a no deal scenario after the UK leaves the EU on 31 October. This means that UK-insured individuals who reside in Switzerland at the time of Brexit will still be able to access healthcare using their S1 form, as they do now.

Moreover, UK nationals travelling to Switzerland, before the UK leaves the EU will continue to be covered by their UK issued EHIC for the duration of their stay. This includes visits which started before Brexit and end after the UKís withdrawal from the EU. If a visit starts after the UK leaves the EU, EHIC may no longer be valid.
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Re: healthcare for British visitors to CH

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There are some specialist insurance companies in the uk that cover elderly people and their conditions. Itís not cheap but itís always pricey covering higher risks. They just have to factor it into the price of the trip.
Absolutely, my mother had a life limiting serious condition and I was able to take out insurance with one of the specialist companies for her to come and visit us a couple of times between diagnosis and when she died.
It wasnít cheap but it was worth it for peace of mind.

As good as the EHIC system is I wouldnít be relying solely on that as there are limits to the cover provided and it is really only designed for emergency treatment.
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I expect DB is right. UK citizens coming as tourists will be treated the same as all others, Switzerland can't have a different agreement to other Schengen members.
What's Schengen got to do with it? Reciprocal healthcare is an EU thing, extended to the EEA+Switzerland thing.

Here's a statement from the UK concerning the reciprocal health-care agreement between the UK and Switzerland. It looks like if you're currently visiting/resident then you've fine. But if you arrive after Brexit day (if it happens) then you won't, and you'll need your own insurance.
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Re: healthcare for British visitors to CH

My aged mother has found that obtaining health insurance for travel is pretty much impossible. This type of arrangement is an option, although obviously comes with a price tag. https://www.sanitas.com/content/dam/...re_9049_en.pdf
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