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My partner and myself are about to have out first baby and we started looking for pediatricians. What is not clear to me is if we can choose the pediatrician before choosing the health insurance (provider and model) or do we need to make sure the pediatrician we pick is "recognized" by the health insurance?

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Old 23.01.2021, 20:58
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Why do you think you’ll need a paediatrician? You just take your child to your GP unless they have a serious health issue.
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Why do you think you’ll need a paediatrician? You just take your child to your GP unless they have a serious health issue.
I don’t know anybody doing that kids normally goes to a pediatrician here for normal check-ups, vaccines and so on.

To the OP, child versions of health insurance don’t typically have the same restrictions that adult ones (the kind where you can reduce your prime if you adhere to some restrictive conditions). You choose whichever health insurance you want for the baby, and a bit before birth you start the long and arduous search for a pediatrician who still takes new patients.
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I don’t know anybody doing that kids normally goes to a pediatrician here for normal check-ups, vaccines and so on.
Everyone I know just goes to their GP. Maybe the OP should ask their GP for their advice.
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Why do you think you’ll need a paediatrician? You just take your child to your GP unless they have a serious health issue.
Agreed- although in Switzerland people prefer to use a pediatrician for babies and children- which to me seems like a massive waste of specialist expertise and extra cost. Out GP makes it very clear she is an all round GP and very happy to look after children of all ages, and basic obs and gynea, etc- just as she would in the UK.

I know it is the norm here Mélusine, but I truly cannot see why. My husband would have hated to be a GP in Switzerland, not seeing children, pregnant women, or anyone with any kind of problem linked to any 'specialism'. A good GP likes variety in their work and the key is to know when to send to specialist.
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Why do you think you’ll need a paediatrician? You just take your child to your GP unless they have a serious health issue.
As has been stated many times on here a practice based paediatrician in Switzerland is basically a GP for kids dealing with all the kid related stuff.
There are specialist paediatricians who deal with the more complex stuff and they are generally hospital based.

Some GPs will see children but a lot of them won’t and tell parents to go to the paediatrician.

We never had one because our son was 11 when we moved here, had never had one and our GP agreed to take him on but everybody was really surprised by it. It’s just how it works here.
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Everyone I know just goes to their GP. Maybe the OP should ask their GP for their advice.
I know literally no one who does that. All go to a pediatrician which is basically a child GP.
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Old 23.01.2021, 21:51
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Hello everybody!

My partner and myself are about to have out first baby and we started looking for pediatricians. What is not clear to me is if we can choose the pediatrician before choosing the health insurance (provider and model) or do we need to make sure the pediatrician we pick is "recognized" by the health insurance?

Many thanks!
For children the saving from having a GP based model are super small so I would keep your options open. Please insure before birth so that if anything happens during you don't have to worry about that formality - obviously all will go well and all but one never knows.

I see that you are in Zurich - there is a couple.of Pediatrician practices, at HB and Silhlcity. They are perhaps a good idea for a newborn because one tends to go more often when they are young and you get more choices of appointment. The one at HB is also good for emergencies. We used a mix of pediatrician and that when the children were younger.

Last piece of advice I would have is to choose near where you live as again, the first month's/years you will go more often and trekking across town with a buggy and a sick baby may not be fun.

We asked the pediatrician who visited the baby at the hospital for a suggestion and then went there - happy since. We see DRM Guggenheim at Friesenberg Kinder Praxis.
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Agreed- although in Switzerland people prefer to use a pediatrician for babies and children- which to me seems like a massive waste of specialist expertise and extra cost. Out GP makes it very clear she is an all round GP and very happy to look after children of all ages, and basic obs and gynea, etc- just as she would in the UK.

I know it is the norm here Mélusine, but I truly cannot see why. My husband would have hated to be a GP in Switzerland, not seeing children, pregnant women, or anyone with any kind of problem linked to any 'specialism'. A good GP likes variety in their work and the key is to know when to send to specialist.
Yeah and you answer will not really help OP as most likely she will call up a GP who will say no. It's just not how it's done here mostly so why not counsel a new mom to how to do it here versus saying that in UK a GP does it differently? Not ever sure my GP would have a bay scale let alone all the toys in the room and sweets after vaccination, or little chairs for little people to sit in - which whilst frivolous really helped.
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Yeah and you answer will not really help OP as most likely she will call up a GP who will say no. It's just not how it's done here mostly so why not counsel a new mom to how to do it here versus saying that in UK a GP does it differently? Not ever sure my GP would have a bay scale let alone all the toys in the room and sweets after vaccination, or little chairs for little people to sit in - which whilst frivolous really helped.

Our GP is very happy to look after babies and children, here in Switzerland- and many others are too, was my point. So it is a relevant choice and a pediatrician is not necesarily required at all. Good to know the choice is there if this is what someone wants.

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Well not sure about your GP, midwives at Basel University hospital itself said me to choose a Pediatrician and take first appointment in a month's time when our baby was born!
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Our GP is very happy to look after babies and children, here in Switzerland- and many others are too, was my point. So it is a relevant choice and a pediatrician is not necesarily required at all. Good to know the choice is there if this is what someone wants.
I guess that if you live in the countryside in a clinical desert, GPs simply have to deal with everything because there’s no other choice.

But I agree with the person who said that here town pediatrician, ie out of hospitals, are basically child GPs. Children come with a variety of very specific needs, very different from adults, and I feel more at ease with a doctor who is fully aware of those specificities and was especially trained in them.
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I guess that if you live in the countryside in a clinical desert, GPs simply have to deal with everything because there’s no other choice.

But I agree with the person who said that here town pediatrician, ie out of hospitals, are basically child GPs. Children come with a variety of very specific needs, very different from adults, and I feel more at ease with a doctor who is fully aware of those specificities and was especially trained in them.
According to doctors here one cannot get a regular GP for kids until 16. So only pediatricians will take them - because there are obligatory check ups, vax, milestones and percentiles that a pediatrician has to verify and sign. Database is different, my pediatrician showed me the charts that are kept. My GP doesn't log my height in (despite the fact that I grew 3cm ).I changed peds a few times so I know. Shortage of pediatricians is worse here than shortage of GPs, people try to transfer kids to them but cannot.
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According to doctors here one cannot get a regular GP for kids until 16. So only pediatricians will take them - because there are obligatory check ups, vax, milestones and percentiles that a pediatrician has to verify and sign. Database is different, my pediatrician showed me the charts that are kept. My GP doesn't log my height in (despite the fact that I grew 3cm ).I changed peds a few times so I know. Shortage of pediatricians is worse here than shortage of GPs, people try to transfer kids to them but cannot.
That is not true, there is no obligation to go specifically to a paediatrician, the challenge is to find a GP who will accept kids.
Our son was almost 11 when we moved here and had never seen a paediatrician (other than the one at the mother and baby clinic when he was a baby) and we just asked our GP if he’d accept him as a patient which he did without issue.
Paediatrician practices are just more geared up for kids so it makes sense to take kids to one especially when they are younger.
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That is not true, there is no obligation to go specifically to a paediatrician, the challenge is to find a GP who will accept kids.
Our son was almost 11 when we moved here and had never seen a paediatrician (other than the one at the mother and baby clinic when he was a baby) and we just asked our GP if he’d accept him as a patient which he did without issue.
Paediatrician practices are just more geared up for kids so it makes sense to take kids to one especially when they are younger.
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According to doctors here one cannot get a regular GP for kids until 16.
I am not making comments about NE but VD, when we tried to switch. No GP would take us, had to get a pediatrician.
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I am not making comments about NE but VD, when we tried to switch. No GP would take us, had to get a pediatrician.
It has nothing to do with the canton.
It’s up to the doctors themselves whether they take kids or not. Obviously the doctors you tried were not willing to accept children as patients.
We have friends in VD who don’t have a paediatrician and use their regular GP for their 7 year old.
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It has nothing to do with the canton.
It’s up to the doctors themselves whether they take kids or not.
Exactly. And here they will not. We tried, other parents tried...Shortage of pediatricians will make parents look for a GP and here they will not take you if your kid isn't 16.
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Exactly. And here they will not. We tried, other parents tried...Shortage of pediatricians will make parents look for a GP and here they will not take you if your kid isn't 16.
Well, the OP isn’t there so it’s kind of irrelevant anyway.

As far as the OP is concerned I would recommend getting a paediatrician in any case and to look for one before the baby is born. As I said the practices are geared up towards babies and young children so it makes sense to take children there.
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I don’t know anybody doing that kids normally goes to a pediatrician here for normal check-ups, vaccines and so on.

To the OP, child versions of health insurance don’t typically have the same restrictions that adult ones (the kind where you can reduce your prime if you adhere to some restrictive conditions). You choose whichever health insurance you want for the baby, and a bit before birth you start the long and arduous search for a pediatrician who still takes new patients.
Looks like we are in the same area. Ardurous indeed.
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I guess that if you live in the countryside in a clinical desert, GPs simply have to deal with everything because there’s no other choice.

But I agree with the person who said that here town pediatrician, ie out of hospitals, are basically child GPs. Children come with a variety of very specific needs, very different from adults, and I feel more at ease with a doctor who is fully aware of those specificities and was especially trained in them.
LOL no, plenty of choice here, and no 'clinical desert', wow. Specialist clinic down the road and another a few km away at the hospital. All I am saying is that there is a choice, and that some GPs are very happy and qualified to look after babies and childrens' needs, and we have a 24/7 local pediatric hotline. That the choice exists is all I am saying.
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