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Re: Exemption from insurance working remotely for the Uk

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A tourist does not work.
People who come here on vacation and bring their laptops to do some work and keep in touch with the office need a permit?

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Old 18.03.2021, 11:51
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People who come here on vacation and bring their laptops to do some work and keep in touch with the office need a permit?

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That is different from working here as your intention is to be on holidays. OP´s intention is not holidays but working from here.
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Old 18.03.2021, 12:00
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That is different from working here as your intention is to be on holidays. OP´s intention is not holidays but working from here.
Where do you draw the line?

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I think that is exactly what JackieO said? Apart from that, OP is not a pensioner.
Not a pensioner but OP is not drawing any income from Switzerland and could apply for KVG exemption should they be employed by an entity based in an EU/EFTA state. In any case the EHIC exemption for UK is no longer in force
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Re: Exemption from insurance working remotely for the Uk

Just to clarify a few wrong assumptions then, As I mentioned I haven't reached the 90 days yet, and as a citizen from a Schengen member I can stay here as a tourist, or I can work for a Swiss company or I can work remotely or do several other things included in the right of free movement, without any need of register or do anything else, so that is absolutely contemplated on the Swiss law, so this is something that if you go to the official
https://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp...=457&langId=en sources you can easily check:
https://www.ch.ch/en/working-switzerland-eu-efta/
"Employees who are working temporarily in Switzerland for
a business based in the EU or the EFTA remain insured in
the EU/EFTA member state, and are therefore not subject
to compulsory insurance in Switzerland, provided certainly
conditions are met. T" https://www.dfae.admin.ch/dam/eda/en...Schweiz_en.pdf

So I don't have a tourist visa, I have an Eu citizenship that entitled me to certain rights, under a circumstance that is contemplated under the Swiss law.
When I had the meeting with the canton office, the situation of being here less than 90 days working remotely fro my country of residence didn't present any issue at all, as some uninformed people like to employ here.

The process that I was enquiring, based on someone that actually did have to request this, is the one detailed here :
"Persons who are resident in Switzerland and who are exclusively employed or on parental leave in an EU/EFTA member state."
https://www.zh.ch/en/gesundheit/kran...ml#-1017222904

Since in one of the inssurance companies it cleary says : "If you move to Switzerland but still work in an EU/EFTA country, then, according to the «place of employment principle», you must be insured in the country where your employer is based. This also applies if you are self-employed. In this case, it is not possible for you to purchase health insurance in Switzerland."

https://www.helsana.ch/en/individual...newcomers.html

But none of the answers wherefrom someone that actually did that request.

I already talked to the relevant departments and requested relevant information.
To whoever is looking for the same information I can tell you that they told me that they are still deciding on terms of companies located in the Uk and reviewing each application individually on terms of papers request to evaluate if they can apply for an exemption or not.
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Re: Exemption from insurance working remotely for the Uk

Everyone can have their own opinion, but lots of people just replied accusing of things that just not true and are offensive or nor based on official links but information, creating just confusion and miss information for whoever needs to read this after looking for advice.

No one here is looking to do anything illegal, the question was straight "did anyone fill this form and can tell me how they did it"
The opinion is one thing, but being disrespectful run false accusations and give fake information is a different one.
Thanks so much for the few that actually replied with accurate information and experiences, though.
For the ones who asked above, no, you don't need any special permit if you have an Eu passport, are intending to stay less than 90 days and are working remotely for your own choice, however, if your company decide to post you on Switzerland, they need to inform (no request a permit) that they are doing that.
I don't know how the regulation in this matter is for non EU citizens, though.
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Old 18.03.2021, 13:05
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Re: Exemption from insurance working remotely for the Uk

You absolutely can't come and work for a Swiss company for less than 90 days without registering (you just don't need authorisation).... you have to register online in this situation.

"Short-term employment up to three months (EU-26/EFTA citizens)
Citizens from EU-26/EFTA states do not require authorisation for short-term employment up to three months or 90 days per calendar year. However, the future Swiss employer is required to register the employment using the electronic reporting procedure. The report must be submitted at least one day before employment is due to begin."

https://www.ch.ch/en/working-switzerland-eu-efta/
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Re: Exemption from insurance working remotely for the Uk

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Do you know anyone who actually did this request? is not quite clear if thet don't have any type of deal with the Uk on this matter, or if having come before the end of the deal helps (the EHIC card is valid as long as it was taken before January for example) but I need to know how the actual process is from a real experience in terms of paper
Just follow the process outlined here for Zurich:

Personen mit Schweizer Wohnsitz und Erwerb in der EU/EFTA - Persons with Swiss residence and work in the EU/EFTA
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Re: Exemption from insurance working remotely for the Uk

But with UK leaving EU is this process valid still?
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Not a pensioner but OP is not drawing any income from Switzerland and could apply for KVG exemption should they be employed by an entity based in an EU/EFTA state.
Actually no, when we first arrived here, OH had taken early retirement by 3 years- so we could not claim exemption. S1 exemption is only for UK retirees without pension or income from CH, who are of UK official retirement age. When OH was 65, we were then able to apply. I am 5 years younger but was accepted as his dependent.

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S1 exemption is only for UK retirees without pension or income from CH, who are of UK official retirement age.
Not true see above
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But with UK leaving EU is this process valid still?
For OP yes as they claim they had exercised EU free movement of treaty rights in the UK before 31.12.2020 and as such are covered by the transition agreement (i.e. for those persons status quo applies)
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Not true see above
This is certainly what we were told by KVG Solothurn, to get S1 we had to wait until OH was of UK official retirement age, 65, have only UK pension and no pension or salary from UK.

As per Forum rules, could you post the actual relevant bit with a translation in English, thanks.

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This is certainly what we were told by KVG Solothurn, to get S1 we had to wait until OH was of UK official retirement age, 65, have only UK pension and no pension or salary from UK.

As per Forum rules, could you post the actual relevant bit with a translation in English, thanks.
OK and what if an S1 form was not only for pensioners but also for people gainfully employed in a different country to where they live?

Here is the link:
https://www.zh.ch/de/gesundheit/kran...ml#-1017222904
Here is a link to Google Translate:
https://translate.google.com/
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Re: Exemption from insurance working remotely for the Uk

As per Forum rules

''The language of the forum is English. Non-English text should be accompanied by an English translation. Some leeway is given, for example when quoting a specific section of law, but ideally an English summary would be helpful. Posts not in the English language may be deleted without warning.''

so could you have the courtesy of selecting the relevant part of the article, and translate it or give accurate gist. thanks.
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Re: Exemption from insurance working remotely for the Uk

The language I am posting is English and the link falls within the leeway of a specificity as per the Forum rules you quote.

If you click on the link provided, it is not an article but the steps to follow to obtain exemption from KVG as an EU/EFTA citizen working in an EU/EFTA state with residency in Switzerland for Kanton Zurich, where OP is located.
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