I don't really understand RAV. Is he entitled to RAV if he signed a contract agreeing to work 40%?? I would have thought there would have to be some sort of redundancy?

Unemployment pay is based on the last 12 months of working, so the insured salary should be far higher than 40% of the current contract.

The issue is, he needs to be well enough to work, to get RAV payments, if already receiving RAV payments you get about 2 months total sickness cover, I don't remember the exact no of days but it's not very generous.

That said, please explain Africa to me as well as India and enlighten me if you had Long Covid, why wouldn't you try Ivermectin - especially given Africa's medical infrastructure?

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...377v1.full.pdf

You don't have to be a scientist to be interested in research

This is a fairly important hole in social security here then, which I believe most are not aware of. I wasn't. So the fix is to take out private "Krankentagegeldversicherung" then when unemployed? Which still doesn't address OP's problem.

Shit. Best of luck to OP, sounds messy.

Hi Mathnut!

You're getting a lot of good advice here so all I'm going to say is hugs to you and your lovely husband. Good luck getting through this stage of life and you will survive!

Love to you both!

As DB is looking over your shoulder, I would like to send my best regards. Been a long time. Does Uncle Bertrand not have a home remedy for this sort of thing? Laughter is the best medicine, after all! Hope things turn out well.

Hi Mathnut,
I also hope someone here can give you helpful advice. It's been a long road for you guys, I am happy DB is getting there - like others wrote, all the best for his full recovery so RAV can start to assist. Please keep us updated here. Long covid is a serious thing, I've had friends succumb to it.
Sending you DB and the little nuts much love xo

Reading other's research is a good thing, but it isn't "doing research". It's more BSc than PhD. Oh, and that article predates the one I linked to by 5 months. Things change. What looks promising at one moment may turn out to not be so good. I'm not saying it won't help long covid, but simply that the data isn't there yet, so it's not a good idea, IMO, to recommend it. And no, I wouldn't take it until there is strong evidence that it works (not just papers that confirm what I want to believe). I might ask to be involved in a clinical trial.

Anyway, back on topic.

I am not a lawyer (or a research scientist ), but this is my take:

The change in contract requires a notice period. Your husband became sick during the notice period, therefore the notice period freezes. Until the notice period is over, the contract may not be varied. To do otherwise is breach of contract.

Your husband has not worked out notice, has not been given sufficient notice, therefore the employer may not do this.

I suggest legal advice. But talk to the RAV first. They're not going to want to pay out if they don't have to, so might be on your side!

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Unfortunately it was not an open ended contract.

That sucks to hear MathNut and I wish you and DB (and the rest of the family) all the best recovering from this.

Sorry to hear this.

Alas, to get unemployment payments one must be able to work.

No need to notify RAV before the start of the new contract, but one does need to have been looking for work for some months before then (with a fixed contract, probably only one month).

Best wishes to all,

Tom

Unfortunately it's 3 months before the end of a fixed contract.

Do doctors really recognise long covid as a serious 100% illness?

For those people on long term stress or sick leave can they really start to rely on long covid as the reason for their illness given it is impossible to test so neither the doctor nor the patient can really rule it out or rely on it?

In my circle of friends I have two people who are on long term sick since may this year due to burn out/covid/missing family/loneliness and the insurance company are pressuring them to resign. Can long covid really be used a potential illness that merits investigation by the psychiatrist / medical doctor

I guess doctors already do see the connection between "left-over" illnesses and having had corona.

The law and therefore the insurers don't yet. So what ever the patient suffers from in the aftermath will be assessed as what it is (shows as) according to their catalogue. The diagnosis "long covid" will have to be specified and taken into the catalogue one day but this - just like anything covid related - is still difficult to pin down. No one to blame really, the problem is new, the knowledge is little. What will long covid be? A life condition? A time limited condition? Will some heal from it and others not? All unknown factors.

I suffered from a whiplash for 25 years! Then it was gone. THAT was unexpected after all this time (yet happily noticed).

Someone mentioned IV. Same problem: Long covid not specified yet.
Not to mention that the IV procedure is always a long, annoying procedure. Still, a registration with IV should probably be done now - Pro Infirmis will have the answer to that, check well in order not to be too late but not too early either - due to the mentioned long process.

Definitely a tough situation, I wish you the stamina to endure it. At least DB is not alone, many fights against insurances are lost because the patient doesn't have the necessary strength to fight them properly. A thing I claim they count on (been there, worn the t-shirt). All the best.

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Dear MN and DB

Absolutely gutted to read this. We miss you both very much here.

DB’s employer cannot do as they please
You need to sign up for invalidity insurance just in case?

The Confederation has helpful guidelines here:
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...ong-covid.html

Thinking of you

(Oops…. Sigh had also mentioned the link above)

Darn. Missed that. Thanks.

I'm sorry that I don't really have any advice to offer, but just want to say that I'm so sorry to hear that DB is struggling with Long Covid. My best friend and her teenage daughter are as well. My husband also has a work-mate who had to cut his work hours significantly due to having Long Covid in the form of severe "brain fog."

I very much hope that all will work out for you guys and that DB is feeling completely back to normal very soon!

For what it's worth, I have heard that the vaccines have been shown to help some people recover from Long Covid, but that is probably something that DB's doctor would be better informed about.

Some recognise that there's a serious illness going on, some don't. Just like ME is/was.

Based on the BAG guidelines for long covid, it seems they treat it as a long term issue, including IV support if necessary.

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...ong-covid.html

Thanks, everyone, for your kind messages (both here and via PM/email/Whatsapp). Means a lot to both of us.

We have indeed fired off a query to Uncle Bertrand, poste restante, I'm sure he'll reply when he has a spare minute but he's doing some sort of volunteer residency in a nurses' training college, I gather there are many and varied demands on his time - all hours of the day and night apparently - one doesn't like to enquire too closely.

Ah, well it seems the plot thickens - I'm now hearing that it was an open-ended contract after all but that the *hours* and thus the payment were subject to these yearly adjustments. I genuinely don't know, never had cause to look into the details until now. He's going to dig up the contract and I'll take a look.

But if that's so, I am aware of at least one other case where a teacher on a similar contract was being let go completely, was unfortunately sick during the notice period and it did result in an extension. Maybe there's an important difference between being fully laid off and having vour % reduced, maybe there was something different about the contracts, maybe the other teacher's school showed un-required leniency, heck, maybe it "varies from canton to canton". Something to look into at any rate... even one extra month at 80% instead of 32% would go a long way toward bridging this gap.

All prayers/vibes/positive thoughts are very gratefully received - and if anyone can send extra sleepy energy to four very lively kids over here, that would be even more appreciated

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